December 06, 2012
On Thursday, 6 December 2012 at 00:33:23 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>
> Take a look at this forum. No spam.

Well not exactly ...
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/k8afao$b29$2@digitalmars.com

I've used usenet myself, and I understand why you like it so much, however we have to be realists. Many ISP's have dropped usenet services completely, and most of the newer generation have no idea what a newsreader is. This is unfortunate, but that's the way it is. The custom web front end to usenet is clunky and looks primitive compared to what users expect to see these days, again that's just the way it is. That last thing you should be doing is isolating yourself from the new generation of programmers, those are the people who will make or break D.

Maybe a full featured modern BB can be used, with a mod to sync up with usenet?

--rt
December 06, 2012
> isolating yourself from the new generation of programmers, those are the people who will make or break D.

I think I'm getting close to the edge here...

I don't think there has ever been a case in history where someone has decided not to use something because its forum didn't have an "Edit" button.

Way to over-dramatize.
December 06, 2012
On Thursday, 6 December 2012 at 02:22:31 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>> isolating yourself from the new generation of programmers, those are the people who will make or break D.
>
> I think I'm getting close to the edge here...
>
> I don't think there has ever been a case in history where someone has decided not to use something because its forum didn't have an "Edit" button.
>
> Way to over-dramatize.

lol, who's being overly dramatic. Web based forums have much more than just an edit button than usenet.

December 06, 2012
On Thursday, 6 December 2012 at 02:30:07 UTC, js.mdnq wrote:
> On Thursday, 6 December 2012 at 02:22:31 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>>> isolating yourself from the new generation of programmers, those are the people who will make or break D.
>>
>> I think I'm getting close to the edge here...
>>
>> I don't think there has ever been a case in history where someone has decided not to use something because its forum didn't have an "Edit" button.
>>
>> Way to over-dramatize.
>
> lol, who's being overly dramatic. Web based forums have much more than just an edit button than usenet.

Please enumerate all such features, and explain:

1. Why they are important to our community
2. How do they justify the drawbacks of splitting the community or forcing NNTP/mailing-list users to migrate
3. Why they can't be implemented in the existing web interface (or how that effort would not be justified compared to the above)
December 06, 2012
Some statistics of how the D community chooses to communicate via news.digitalmars.com.

Unique authors in the past 30 days:

forum.dlang.org		157	57%
Mailman (mailing list)	 37	13%
NNTP (usenet protocol)	 82	30%
Total			276

Posts in the past 30 days:

forum.dlang.org		1520	31%
Mailman (mailing list)	 917	19%
NNTP (usenet protocol)	2446	50%
Total			4883	
December 06, 2012
The way I use the newsgroup is I read via the email gateway, then post via the web interface. (Posting by email seems buggy as hell.)
December 06, 2012
On Thursday, 6 December 2012 at 02:52:00 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> The way I use the newsgroup is I read via the email gateway, then post via the web interface. (Posting by email seems buggy as hell.)

At home, I've been reading via Thunderbird and posting via the web interface. Since I installed Thunderbird on my new system, I've been unable to post from it at all. A few reinstalls fruitless web searches later, I give up. At work, I use the web interface.
December 06, 2012
On 12/6/2012 11:43 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Thursday, 6 December 2012 at 00:41:12 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 12/6/2012 11:31 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>>> The D forum is open-source, and help / contributions are welcome. I was
>>> actually hoping that the D community would be a bit more involved in its
>>> development, however for the moment I remain the sole author (as far as
>>> D code goes). Perhaps it is partially my fault, as the source code is
>>> not as organized as I would like it to be...
>>
>> I was just thinking about that. I think part of the problem is nobody
>> knows that it is open source or where to get it.
>>
>> I suggest that, on each page generated, add a link to a page
>> explaining what the forum software is, where it is, and how anyone may
>> fork it, contribute to it, learn from it, etc.
>
> Something like that already exists - the "Help" link.

To me, help implies something different.

>
> I suppose I could expand the text a bit to make it clear that
> contributions are welcome.

December 06, 2012
On 12/6/2012 1:09 PM, Rob T wrote:
> On Thursday, 6 December 2012 at 00:33:23 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>>
>> Take a look at this forum. No spam.
>
> Well not exactly ...
> http://forum.dlang.org/thread/k8afao$b29$2@digitalmars.com

Those posts do not appear if you're using an NNTP reader. It's not a fault with using NNTP.

Vladimir is working to do a better job syncing the forum.dlang.org with the NNTP database.

December 06, 2012
enhancing forum features: 1click upvote, sorting, 1click duplicate etc (eg: userecho use case)