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April 01, 2012
Re: video games (was Re: UFCS for D)
On Sunday, 1 April 2012 at 06:41:16 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

> [Anzen Chitai] Suki Sa (One of the Maison Ikkoku openings)
> [The Indigo] I Do! (ED1: Ai Yori Aoshi Enishi)
> [Hitomi Takahashi] Aozora no Namida (OP1: Blood+)
> [Yoko Kanno] Tank! (OP: Cowboy Bebop)
> [Origa & Yoko Kanno] Inner Universe (OP: Ghost in the Shell: 
> Stand Alone
> Complex)
> [Kaoru Wada] Kagome's Theme (Background Music: Inuyasha)
> [Dream] My Will (ED1: Inuyasha)
> [Namie Amuro] Come (ED7: Inuyasha)
> [Nanase Aikawa] Owarinai Yume (OP3: Inuyasha)
> [Eufonius] Koi Suru Kokoro (OP: Kashimashi)
> [Yuumao] Michishirube (ED: Kashimashi)
> [Isoe Toshimichi & Hosoi Soushi & Fujima Hitoshi] Hiai mo Otome 
> ni wa
> (Background Song: Kashimashi - I've actually been trying to 
> learn this one
> on the piano)
> [???] Panic (ED1: Kodocha)
> [???] Ultra Relax (OP2: Kodocha)
> [Rythem] Harmonia (ED2?: Naruto)
> [Eufonius] Idea (OP: Noein)
> [the show's cast] Shojo Q (OP3: Pani Poni Dash)
> [the show's cast] Roulette * Roulette (OP2: Pani Poni Dash)
> [Suga Shikao] 19sai (OP: xxxHolic)
> [Minmi] Shiki no Uta (ED1: Samurai Champloo)
> [the show's cast] Ichigo Complete (OP: Strawberry Marshmallow)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnIDiLJuuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RazOfS6mjfw
... and many more.

> Actually, that is insanely long, these would be the tops of the 
> tops:

Indeed there are tons! Too bad my first anime was "Samurai 
Champloo". It is like starting movies with Bladerunner and then 
have to endure soup operas like Star Wars mostly because of 
addiction (Probably i offended most of the interwebs now but that 
is what i do!).
April 01, 2012
Re: video games (was Re: UFCS for D)
On Mar 31, 2012, at 1:57 PM, "Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> wrote:
> 
> Don't know about satellite, but Cable turned to crap about a couple years 
> ago. It used to be very good, but then they started compressing the fuck out 
> of everything, and honest to god, half the time it looks like a fucking 
> MPEG**1**. "Digital quality" my fucking ass. (And and there were even A/V 
> sync issues!)

I have U-Verse now and it's the same way. HD stations are compressed so much that i occasionally even see artifacts. In fact, I often get a higher quality picture streaming from Netflix over the same pipe. Comcast is just as bad though.
April 01, 2012
Re: video games (was Re: UFCS for D)
"so" <so@so.so> wrote in message 
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>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnIDiLJuuY

I've never even heard of that show before. Definitely a very good opening.

Looks like a good show, too. While I agree with "Can't judge a book by it's 
cover", anime openings seem to strangely be an exception: Nine times out of 
ten (yes, I pulled those numbers out of my ass ;) ), my impression of an 
opening sequence is spot-on with how I end up feeling about the show. Ghost 
in the Shell SAC, Death Note, Strawberry Marshmallow, Azumanga Daioh, 
Blood+, Pani Poni Dash and various others are all shows I fell in love with 
right from the opening sequence, and the shows themselves lived up to their 
openings. And then there were cases where the openings and actual show were 
both "just ok", etc.

What's really impressive about anime openings/closings though, is that they 
really are a whole separate art form in and of themselves. For example, 
Naruto's second (Japanese) closing ("Harmonia"), and Inuyasha's 7th closing 
("Come"), are just pure artistic beauty. I was completely blown away by 
them. Same goes for the openings (and closings) of Cowboy Bebop and Samurai 
Champloo. Music videos have *nothing* on those (although I am a fan of Spike 
Jones's work).

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RazOfS6mjfw
> ... and many more.
>

How could I possibly forget that one?!?

Yes, Light's Theme from Death Note is indeed one of the best anime songs 
/ever/. Come to think of it, it would fit in very well on Marilyn Manson's 
Holywood album - *and* be one of the real standout songs.

I actually have the Death Note soundtrack. Other equally-stand-out songs on 
it are "L's Theme" (L was a fantastic character period), the title tracks 
"Death Note" and "Death Note Theme", "Jiken", "Kinchou", "Senritsu", 
"Kodoku", "Tokusou Kira han", "L's Theme B", "L no Nakama", "Tokusou", 
"Taikutsu", "Teloelogy of Death" and "Law of Solipsism". That sounds like a 
lot, but there's actually a *lot* of songs on the album.

The opening/closing songs are pretty good too. Gotta love that "Maximum the 
Hormone" group: Japanese Death-Metal-slash-Ska/Punk. Crazy shit :)

>> Actually, that is insanely long, these would be the tops of the tops:
>
> Indeed there are tons! Too bad my first anime was "Samurai Champloo". It 
> is like starting movies with Bladerunner and then have to endure soup 
> operas like Star Wars mostly because of addiction (Probably i offended 
> most of the interwebs now but that is what i do!).

Heh. :) I see Star Wars as more of an action movie than science fiction 
though. And it's pretty damn good as an action movie (though I've always 
been more in the Trek camp, myself :P )

Funny thing about Bladerunner though, for some reason I just couldn't get 
into it when I tried to watch it. It just seemed really slow moving and it 
kinda (dare I say it?) bored me. Maybe it's cause it was the director's cut? 
I dunno. I've been meaning to give it another try though. Maybe the "Final 
Cut".

There's a fairly recent movie though that's apperently based on another 
story by the same author of Bladerunner: The Adjustment Bureau. *That* one I 
was pretty impressed with. Sort of a "Michael" meets "Matrix" (And Total 
Recall, also apperently one of his, is of course one of the best movies ever 
:) )
April 01, 2012
Re: video games (was Re: UFCS for D)
On Sunday, 1 April 2012 at 21:06:09 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

> How could I possibly forget that one?!?
>
> Yes, Light's Theme from Death Note is indeed one of the best 
> anime songs
> /ever/. Come to think of it, it would fit in very well on 
> Marilyn Manson's
> Holywood album - *and* be one of the real standout songs.
>
> I actually have the Death Note soundtrack. Other 
> equally-stand-out songs on
> it are "L's Theme" (L was a fantastic character period),

L is awesome.
Don't start with characters! Every character in SC and CB is just 
crazy for starters. I mean everyone. Did you watch C-Bebop in 
English or Japanese? I tend to watch them in original sounds, 
this one was an exception. Edward with "Melissa Fahn", priceless!

> Funny thing about Bladerunner though, for some reason I just 
> couldn't get
> into it when I tried to watch it. It just seemed really slow 
> moving and it
> kinda (dare I say it?) bored me. Maybe it's cause it was the 
> director's cut?
> I dunno. I've been meaning to give it another try though. Maybe 
> the "Final
> Cut".

Every picture in BR is pure art to me, Rachael, Zhora and most 
importantly every appearance of Roy. You could just "listen" it 
for Vangelis (he is the best of best!). Sometimes i think 
everything comes out of a single idea, everything in a cinema or 
a book prepares you for that moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VupxqjTGAyk&feature=fvwrel
April 01, 2012
Re: UFCS for D
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:10:56 +0200, Walter Bright  
<newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote:

> On 3/30/2012 5:25 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>> Ah, I know how to fix it. Mark such instantiations as "local" ones, so  
>> they are
>> mangled with the module name of where they were instantiated from.
>
> http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=7802

http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2131 might be a related  
problem.
April 02, 2012
Re: video games (was Re: UFCS for D)
"so" <so@so.so> wrote in message 
news:tnlksyhbnypfjbybmeju@forum.dlang.org...
> On Sunday, 1 April 2012 at 21:06:09 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>
>> (L was a fantastic character period),
>
> L is awesome.
> Don't start with characters! Every character in SC and CB is just crazy 
> for starters. I mean everyone.

Yea, they are great. Shinichirou Watanabe is nothing short of a genius. Pure 
perfection in his work. It kills me that he doesn't have another new series 
on the horizon (at least to public knowledge, anyway).


> Did you watch C-Bebop in English or Japanese? I tend to watch them in 
> original sounds, this one was an exception.

English. For me, "English vs Japanese" varies from show to show (And in 
*rare* cases I'll actually watch both - namely Kodocha). Generally, I'll 
start with the English (if there is any), and if it turns out to be 
bad/annoying, then I'll switch to Japanese.

Once in a while a show will come along where I'm genuinely blown away by how 
incredibly good the English version is: In particular, Death Note and 
Fullmetal Alchemist (And naturally Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo). The 
*entire* English casts on all those shows did unbelievably fantastic jobs. 
Even to the point where it's actually worth watching those shows even just 
for the English voice acting (Which is a wonderful far cry from the days 
when English dubs had a reputation for being bad.)

> Edward with "Melissa Fahn", priceless!
>

Oh, yea. She did a brilliant job. That's definitely one of the absolute top 
3 on my list of "Best-Dubbed Characters". The other 2 would be Laura 
Bailey's "Sana Kurata" from Kodocha, and Caitlin Glass's "Winry Rockbell" 
from Fullmetal Alchemist. Particularly Caitlin's/Winry's famous squeal which 
wasn't even in the original Japanese version.

I only wish I could do voice acting as well as they do it and work together 
on a project. It would certainly beat mucking with HTML!
April 02, 2012
Re: UFCS for D
Le 31/03/2012 02:25, Walter Bright a écrit :
> On 3/30/2012 12:36 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 3/30/2012 12:11 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:27:43 -0400, Walter Bright
>>> <newshound2@digitalmars.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would argue that:
>>>>
>>>> 3. An extension method for an argument of type template parameter T
>>>> will be
>>>> looked up only in the instantiation scope.
>>>
>>> I don't think you looked at my counter case in detail. Your idea
>>> leads to two
>>> different instantiations of tmpl!Foo having two different
>>> implementations,
>>> depending on which extension methods you include. In fact, in one
>>> place, the
>>> instantiation might succeed, but in another, the instantiation might
>>> fail.
>>
>> Yes, you're right. I missed that nuance. I don't really know how to
>> fix it.
>
> Ah, I know how to fix it. Mark such instantiations as "local" ones, so
> they are mangled with the module name of where they were instantiated from.

I think this is a terrible idea. Additionally, such a function can be 
passed as template parameter using an alias parameter, or the module to 
import can be passed.

This is a non issue. I don't see why UFCS would be treated as special in 
regard to template instantiation. Template and UFCS are orthogonal concepts.
April 02, 2012
Re: UFCS for D
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:25:10 -0400, Walter Bright  
<newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote:

> On 3/30/2012 12:36 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 3/30/2012 12:11 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:27:43 -0400, Walter Bright  
>>> <newshound2@digitalmars.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would argue that:
>>>>
>>>> 3. An extension method for an argument of type template parameter T  
>>>> will be
>>>> looked up only in the instantiation scope.
>>>
>>> I don't think you looked at my counter case in detail. Your idea leads  
>>> to two
>>> different instantiations of tmpl!Foo having two different  
>>> implementations,
>>> depending on which extension methods you include. In fact, in one  
>>> place, the
>>> instantiation might succeed, but in another, the instantiation might  
>>> fail.
>>
>> Yes, you're right. I missed that nuance. I don't really know how to fix  
>> it.
>
> Ah, I know how to fix it. Mark such instantiations as "local" ones, so  
> they are mangled with the module name of where they were instantiated  
> from.

As I mentioned, this is the horrible solution I did not wish to have :(

What is wrong with my proposal (item 2 from my original post)?  It seems  
like it would be as easy to implement as your proposal, and does not  
create "local" instantiations.

-Steve
April 02, 2012
Re: UFCS for D
On 30/03/12 12:22, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 3/30/2012 2:15 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>> Andrei and I have talked about it, and we think it is because of
>>> difficulties in breaking a module up into submodules of a package.
>>> We think it's something we need to address.
>>
>> Eh? Other people have voiced concerns over that since waaay back in even
>> pre-D1 times. In particular, many people have argued for allowing modules
>> with the same name as a package. Ie: you could have both module "foo" and
>> module "foo.bar". The reasons they gave for wanting this are right
>> along the
>> lines of what you're talking about here. Eventually they got the message
>> that it wasn't gonna happen and they gave up asking for it.
>>
>> Or is there a separate problem you're refering to?
>
> No, that's it. What brings it to the fore is, as I said, the
> kitchen-sink module that is becoming prevalent.
>

To be brutally honest, I don't think that's got much to do with the 
language. It's got to do with Phobos adopting the Big Ball Of Mud design 
pattern. There's no reason for the existing modules to be so huge. Eg, I 
created std.internal.math so that the math modules would stay small.
Not only are the modules huge, they import everything.

I'd like to see some attempt to fix the problem within the language 
right now, before jumping straight into language changes.
April 02, 2012
Re: video games (was Re: UFCS for D)
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 05:37:49 -0400, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:

> "Walter Bright" <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote in message
> news:jl6a6a$1gh$1@digitalmars.com...
>> Dudes, get an HD TV. It really is transformative. And yes, it kills me
>> that my expensive old large screen standard def TV is just a POS in
>> comparison, even though it is in perfect working order.
>>
>> I can't even stand to watch standard def anymore.
>
> I've seen and used HD sets. Heck, my sister has one (a fancy new one -  
> 1080p
> of course) and I've watched stuff on it with her. BluRay, HDMI, all the
> bells & whitles, etc. Yea, the HD looks nice, but ultimately I've never
> gotten past the overall feeling of "Meh". YMMV, but it *honestly* just
> doesn't do much for me. Certainly not enough to blow hundreds of dollars  
> on
> it.

3d.  It's worth the upgrade.  My brother has a PS3 and just got a 47" HD  
3D set for about $1000.  Modern warfare in 3d is freaking amazing.

I'm waiting for the price to come down so I can get one :)

I currently have an HD tube tv which runs at 1080i.  The nice thing about  
tubes is that standard definition *does* look more normal in it.  But the  
bad part is that most HD signals are *expecting* you to have a flat  
panel.  Whenever I watch a sports game, I get pissed that the score is cut  
off by my TV because they put it on the exact edge of the picture.

-Steve
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