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May 03, 2012
Re: Growing pains
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 07:50:30PM -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Alex Rønne Petersen" <xtzgzorex@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:jnv2c1$319r$2@digitalmars.com...
> >
> > As far as I can see, Thunderbird doesn't save sent NNTP messages
> > anywhere unless you explicitly tell it to. :(
[...]

I'm skeptical of all GUI-based mail clients. But that's just me. :-)


> Outlook Express does ;)
[...]

Ewww!!


T

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May 04, 2012
Re: Growing pains
On 04-05-2012 01:50, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Alex Rønne Petersen"<xtzgzorex@gmail.com>  wrote in message
> news:jnv2c1$319r$2@digitalmars.com...
>>
>> As far as I can see, Thunderbird doesn't save sent NNTP messages anywhere
>> unless you explicitly tell it to. :(
>>
>
> Outlook Express does ;)
>
>

I try to stay away from Windows. :P

-- 
- Alex
May 04, 2012
Re: Growing pains
On 5/3/2012 3:54 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
> I use Thunderbird too, and one of my messages actually *did* get lost. I wrote
> the message, hit send, and then right after it "finished" sending the message,
> an NG error popped up and the message was lost.
>
> As far as I can see, Thunderbird doesn't save sent NNTP messages anywhere unless
> you explicitly tell it to. :(

TB saves all sent messages in the "Sent" folder. It has happened a couple times 
that a n.g. posting got lost in transit, and I'd just get a copy from the Sent 
folder and resubmit it.

I have never lost a message with TB. It's usually in the Sent or the Drafts folder.

I suggest checking your TB options, and make sure to check the box about 
automatically saving a copy of sent messages.
May 04, 2012
Re: Growing pains
Le jeudi 03 mai 2012 à 15:47 -0700, Walter Bright a écrit :
> On 5/3/2012 1:52 PM, deadalnix wrote:
> > It was so anoying when posting a message and *pof* « error your message is lost ».
> 
> Youch. I didn't realize that was happening. I post from Thunderbird, and if it 
> fails you just try it again.
> 
> Anyhow, thanks to Jan Knepper for hosting us and figuring out a solution.

Works fine too, with Evolution
May 04, 2012
Re: Growing pains
On 05/03/2012 10:50 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Just letting you all know we're working on the frustrating and
> increasingly frequent "Load at xx.xx, try again later" errors when
> reading this forum through NNTP. They are caused by a significant growth
> spurt in newsgroup readership that occurred in recent times. We are
> working with our provider to fix these issues.

Out of curiosity, can we get some numbers on the number of concurrent 
users that are causing the problems? I'm surprised that a modern machine 
would have trouble keeping up with newsgroup traffic. I figure it is 
either broken software or the machine is actually busy doing something else.
May 04, 2012
Re: Growing pains
On Thu, 03 May 2012 23:25:26 +0100, H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@quickfur.ath.cx>  
wrote:

> On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 01:51:20PM -0700, Ali Çehreli wrote:
>> On 05/03/2012 01:52 PM, deadalnix wrote:
>> >Le 03/05/2012 16:50, Andrei Alexandrescu a écrit :
>> >>Just letting you all know we're working on the frustrating and
>> >>increasingly frequent "Load at xx.xx, try again later" errors when
>> >>reading this forum through NNTP. They are caused by a significant
>> >>growth spurt in newsgroup readership that occurred in recent times.
>> >>We are working with our provider to fix these issues.
> [...]
>> >I love you :D
>> >
>> >It was so anoying when posting a message and *pof* « error your
>> >message is lost ».
>>
>> I've learned years ago to never trust a web page or a browser.
>
> +1.
>
>
>> I always type inside the Emacs *scratch* buffer and then copy and
>> paste from there to the browser window. (I did it again! :) Actually
>> no, this is a Thunderbird window, but still...)
> [...]
>
> Or just use a sane email client like Mutt and subscribe to the mailing
> list instead. :-)

Opera does this right too :)

R

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May 04, 2012
Re: Growing pains
On 5/4/12 2:26 AM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
> On 05/03/2012 10:50 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> Just letting you all know we're working on the frustrating and
>> increasingly frequent "Load at xx.xx, try again later" errors when
>> reading this forum through NNTP. They are caused by a significant growth
>> spurt in newsgroup readership that occurred in recent times. We are
>> working with our provider to fix these issues.
>
> Out of curiosity, can we get some numbers on the number of concurrent
> users that are causing the problems?

This would be interesting to know. Relayed upstream.

> I'm surprised that a modern machine
> would have trouble keeping up with newsgroup traffic. I figure it is
> either broken software or the machine is actually busy doing something
> else.

FWIW it seemed to be just a configuration issue.


Andrei
May 04, 2012
Re: Growing pains
On Fri, 04 May 2012 05:00:10 -0400, Regan Heath <regan@netmail.co.nz>  
wrote:

> Opera does this right too :)

Yeah, I still have all my sent posts in opera...

One thing that annoys me though, if a message doesn't get sent, it stays  
in your outbox.  Then when you double-click on it to edit/resend, it's  
been reformatted to be 80 characters wide for some reason.

-Steve
May 04, 2012
Re: Growing pains
Am 03.05.2012 22:51, schrieb Ali Çehreli:
> On 05/03/2012 01:52 PM, deadalnix wrote:
>> Le 03/05/2012 16:50, Andrei Alexandrescu a écrit :
>>> Just letting you all know we're working on the frustrating and
>>> increasingly frequent "Load at xx.xx, try again later" errors when
>>> reading this forum through NNTP. They are caused by a significant growth
>>> spurt in newsgroup readership that occurred in recent times. We are
>>> working with our provider to fix these issues.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andrei
>>
>> I love you :D
>>
>> It was so anoying when posting a message and *pof* « error your message
>> is lost ».
>
> I've learned years ago to never trust a web page or a browser. I always
> type inside the Emacs *scratch* buffer and then copy and paste from
> there to the browser window. (I did it again! :) Actually no, this is a
> Thunderbird window, but still...)
>
> Ali

Ah, the benefits of using plain simple native desktop applications. :)
May 04, 2012
Re: Growing pains
On 05/04/2012 02:27 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

> FWIW it seemed to be just a configuration issue.

Perhaps not solved yet? I just hit the same problem about fifteen 
minutes ago.

Ali
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