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August 24, 2012
Re: Walter charms the audience at Sioux
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:44:55 +0100, Simen Kjaeraas  
<simen.kjaras@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:52:04 +0200, F i L <witte2008@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter Alexander wrote:
>>> There's no such thing as a perfect language.
>>
>> Note the asterisks.
>
> What I'm used to, *this* means bold. *Perfect* thus means absolutely
> perfect.
>
> Perfect*, on the other hand, would mean either 'more information below'
> or 'piece of crap', depending on whether it's in a technical text or an  
> ad.

And "perfect" might mean "depends who you ask" :p

R

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August 24, 2012
Re: Walter charms the audience at Sioux
On 8/24/12 4:09 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 8/24/2012 12:00 AM, Bernard Helyer wrote:
>> On Friday, 24 August 2012 at 06:46:10 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>>> On 8/23/2012 11:34 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>>>> Will there be a video posted?
>>>
>>> If not by now, probably not.
>>
>> Was the talk mostly the same as the other one you gave
>> with the same slides? (forget where that was)
>
> Yes.

Slides look good, I'm sure the talk went great, loved the shirt. What 
didn't float the boat of those two fellas in the front row on slide 94?

Andrei
August 24, 2012
Re: Walter charms the audience at Sioux
On 8/23/12 9:27 PM, F i L wrote:
> Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> You've been mistaken. @system is the default.
>>
>> If we could go back in time and redo things, we'd probably do stuff
>> like make
>> pure and @safe the default, but it's far too late now.
>
> Okay, thanks for the info. I have a feeling that D3 will truly be the
> "golden age" and point of mass adoption of the D programming language.

If it's not D2, it'll never be.

Andrei
August 24, 2012
Re: Walter charms the audience at Sioux
On 8/24/12 12:35 AM, bearophile wrote:
> Walter Bright:
>
>> I like the plain jane look, and do not think it is unprofessional.
>
> A part of me thinks the outlook of those slides is not
> "shiny-professional", just compare your slides with the first and last
> slides in that Pdf probably added by the conference organizers, with
> refined graphics, etc:
> http://sioux.eu/en/hot-or-not/downloads/doc_download/80-walter-bright-d-programming-language.html

Slide design is greatly variable across speakers, and is poorly 
correlated with the quality of the talk. That being said, Walter's 
slides are well done and (knowing the talk) very adequate for supporting 
the points made. I wouldn't change a thing.

> On the other hand I like that plain look myself :-) I love simple
> readable things, my slides look equally plain and simple.

I'd initially let it go, but now that you insist - then why would you 
write this?

> Maybe someone of the D community is willing to prettify Walter slides
> before he does the talks. I think this will help give D endavour and
> community a bit more professional/refined look.

In one shot you gratuitously belittle quality work and arrogate to 
yourself authority in judging it. I honestly don't understand why you'd 
post that (and, unfortunately, many like it), unless your express 
purpose is to piss people off.


Andrei
August 24, 2012
Re: Walter charms the audience at Sioux
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:49:02 +0200
"Peter Alexander" <peter.alexander.au@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There's no such thing as a perfect language.

Well of course there isn't: D3 isn't made yet! ;)
August 24, 2012
Re: Walter charms the audience at Sioux
Really nice (and fun) presentation! I wish I could've been there!

And what's the deal with D3(?) guys?
Aren't you satisfied with D2? I think it rox baby!!
August 24, 2012
Re: Walter charms the audience at Sioux
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:18:45 +0200
"Minas Mina" <minas_mina1990@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> Really nice (and fun) presentation! I wish I could've been there!
> 
> And what's the deal with D3(?) guys?

Purely hypothetical talk right now. No real plans for a D3 ATM.

> Aren't you satisfied with D2?

One can never be satisfied :)

> I think it rox baby!!
> 

Indeed it does!
August 25, 2012
Re: Walter charms the audience at Sioux
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 8/23/12 9:27 PM, F i L wrote:
>> Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>>> You've been mistaken. @system is the default.
>>>
>>> If we could go back in time and redo things, we'd probably do 
>>> stuff
>>> like make
>>> pure and @safe the default, but it's far too late now.
>>
>> Okay, thanks for the info. I have a feeling that D3 will truly 
>> be the
>> "golden age" and point of mass adoption of the D programming 
>> language.
>
> If it's not D2, it'll never be.

I'm not sure what so hard to understand about the term "golden 
age" but I get the impression people here think I was dishing out 
an insult to D2. I'm not. I'm just being realistic. Johnathan 
mentions that D3 won't even be considered for years and that's 
the amount of time I think it'll take before D2 fixes all it's 
problems keeping it from becoming widely adopted: shared objects, 
IDE tools, ARM (Android/iOS), third party libraries, etc.. thus 
me saying that D3 will bring the _golden age_ of D. Meaning it's 
the age where all the university and programming jobs are focused 
on D.

I'm not being pessimistic here, I'm being optimistic.
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