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November 10, 2012
[OT] Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox completely broken
I just wanted you all to know that running Ubuntu 12.10 as a guest in 
VirtualBox is completely broken. I update by guest system from 12.04 to 
12.10 and it's so slow it's not usable. This is a known issue:

https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/11107

That issue contains a pre-release of VirtualBox, I tried that on Mac OS 
X and it broken the Ubuntu guest even more. No title bar on the windows 
or any window frame actually.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
November 10, 2012
Re: [OT] Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox completely broken
On 10/11/2012 10:14, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> I just wanted you all to know that running Ubuntu 12.10 as a guest in
> VirtualBox is completely broken. I update by guest system from 12.04 to
> 12.10 and it's so slow it's not usable. This is a known issue:
>
> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/11107
>
> That issue contains a pre-release of VirtualBox, I tried that on Mac OS
> X and it broken the Ubuntu guest even more. No title bar on the windows
> or any window frame actually.
>

What a coincidence, I just installed VirtualBox and was looking for 
advice on what distro of linux to install...

All I want to be able to do with my VM is be able to build GDC for my 
RasPi (via all the hoops that are necessary to get cross compilation 
working), not bothered about any GUI stuff or bells/whistles, 
suggestions for a good distro to go with are welcome!

A...
November 10, 2012
Re: [OT] Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox completely broken
On 2012-11-10 12:30, Alix Pexton wrote:

> What a coincidence, I just installed VirtualBox and was looking for
> advice on what distro of linux to install...
>
> All I want to be able to do with my VM is be able to build GDC for my
> RasPi (via all the hoops that are necessary to get cross compilation
> working), not bothered about any GUI stuff or bells/whistles,
> suggestions for a good distro to go with are welcome!

Ubuntu 12.04 was working perfectly fine for me. Another alternative 
could be Linux Mint. I haven't used it myself but I heard it's basically 
Ubuntu with less bells and whistles, i.e they're not using the Unity GUI.

http://linuxmint.com/

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
November 10, 2012
Re: [OT] Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox completely broken
On 11/10/2012 04:11 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> On 2012-11-10 12:30, Alix Pexton wrote:
>
>> What a coincidence, I just installed VirtualBox and was looking for
>> advice on what distro of linux to install...
>>
>> All I want to be able to do with my VM is be able to build GDC for my
>> RasPi (via all the hoops that are necessary to get cross compilation
>> working), not bothered about any GUI stuff or bells/whistles,
>> suggestions for a good distro to go with are welcome!
>
> Ubuntu 12.04 was working perfectly fine for me. Another alternative
> could be Linux Mint. I haven't used it myself but I heard it's basically
> Ubuntu with less bells and whistles, i.e they're not using the Unity GUI.
>
> http://linuxmint.com/
>

Ubuntu 12.10/gnome classic works well enough; just turn off compiz. I 
tried mint and ran into trouble while compiling llvm. make gobbled 
memory for a while, and then the desktop restarted itself (I guess?). 
All my windows: gone.
November 10, 2012
Re: [OT] Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox completely broken
On 2012-11-10 17:14, Ellery Newcomer wrote:

> Ubuntu 12.10/gnome classic works well enough; just turn off compiz. I
> tried mint and ran into trouble while compiling llvm. make gobbled
> memory for a while, and then the desktop restarted itself (I guess?).
> All my windows: gone.

I don't know if I can do that when basically the only thing that works 
are the desktop icons. Neither the top or left bar is displayed. I 
should perhaps go back to an older version of VritualBox.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
November 10, 2012
Re: [OT] Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox completely broken
On Saturday, 10 November 2012 at 11:30:31 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:
> All I want to be able to do with my VM is be able to build GDC 
> for my RasPi (via all the hoops that are necessary to get cross 
> compilation working), not bothered about any GUI stuff or 
> bells/whistles, suggestions for a good distro to go with are 
> welcome!

I use Arch Linux for this kind of stuff, and just ssh into my VMs 
instead of running X on them. I especially like Arch for this 
because it doesn't come with loads of bloat (for this setting) 
installed by default, yet is comfortable to use – at least if 
you are somewhat familiar with Linux already.

David
November 10, 2012
Re: [OT] Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox completely broken
On 10 November 2012 11:30, Alix Pexton <alix.DOT.pexton@gmail.dot.com> wrote:
> On 10/11/2012 10:14, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>>
>> I just wanted you all to know that running Ubuntu 12.10 as a guest in
>> VirtualBox is completely broken. I update by guest system from 12.04 to
>> 12.10 and it's so slow it's not usable. This is a known issue:
>>
>> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/11107
>>
>> That issue contains a pre-release of VirtualBox, I tried that on Mac OS
>> X and it broken the Ubuntu guest even more. No title bar on the windows
>> or any window frame actually.
>>
>
> What a coincidence, I just installed VirtualBox and was looking for advice
> on what distro of linux to install...
>
> All I want to be able to do with my VM is be able to build GDC for my RasPi
> (via all the hoops that are necessary to get cross compilation working), not
> bothered about any GUI stuff or bells/whistles, suggestions for a good
> distro to go with are welcome!
>
> A...

You don't necessarily need a cross compiler to do the job. Set-up a
raspbian chroot instead!

There's some rough instructions here.

http://superpiadventures.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/development-environment/


You are also able to debug programs through qemu, though there's a
hurdle you have to jump through.

http://tinkering-is-fun.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/debugging-non-native-programs-with-qemu.html


Regards,
Iain.


-- 
Iain Buclaw

*(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
November 11, 2012
Re: [OT] Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox completely broken
>
> You don't necessarily need a cross compiler to do the job. Set-up a
> raspbian chroot instead!
>
> There's some rough instructions here.
>
> http://superpiadventures.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/development-environment/
>
>
> You are also able to debug programs through qemu, though there's a
> hurdle you have to jump through.
>
> http://tinkering-is-fun.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/debugging-non-native-programs-with-qemu.html
>
>
> Regards,
> Iain.
>
>

interesting...

but a lot of these instructions assume a lot more linux expertise than I 
have to hand, even the ones that claim to cover every step miss things.

That's one of the reasons that I made my RasPi available to all (as long 
as they ask for an account) ^^

A...
November 11, 2012
Re: [OT] Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox completely broken
>
> You don't necessarily need a cross compiler to do the job. Set-up a
> raspbian chroot instead!
>
> There's some rough instructions here.
>
> http://superpiadventures.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/development-environment/
>
>
> You are also able to debug programs through qemu, though there's a
> hurdle you have to jump through.
>
> http://tinkering-is-fun.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/debugging-non-native-programs-with-qemu.html
>
>
> Regards,
> Iain.
>
>

The comments on the first article say that using qemu is as slow as 
compiling on the RasPi, and recommend using the cross-compiler instead.

I followed the instructs anyway, and all seemed to go well, but they 
just stop without detailing how to actually compile anything, or 
explaining what has been done ><

A...
November 11, 2012
Re: [OT] Ubuntu 12.10 guest in VirtualBox completely broken
On 2012-11-10 17:14, Ellery Newcomer wrote:

> Ubuntu 12.10/gnome classic works well enough; just turn off compiz. I
> tried mint and ran into trouble while compiling llvm. make gobbled
> memory for a while, and then the desktop restarted itself (I guess?).
> All my windows: gone.

I manage to turn of compiz but I don't know if I made some bad choices 
in the process because now I only have the desktop. No left or top bar.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
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