January 02, 2013
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 14:14:54 UTC, David Eagen wrote:
> I have noticed my project doesn't compile with 2.061 when it did with 2.060. I am using a few different static libraries, one of them is thrift.
>
> I had to recompile the libraries I use with 2.061 which meant I had to rebuild thrift and the thrift generated libraries. Once I did that I could compile just fine. But before that I got the errors below.

Hm, the errors you are getting _do_ look like a typical Phobos modules vs. binaries mismatch.

Thrift should work fine on 2.061, and if you apply the following patches, it should pass all the tests (trivial fixes, but they haven't been merged been in yet): https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-1814

David
January 02, 2013
On 1/2/2013 1:32 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
>> It also nuked all my mail and calender data, which is why I don't use Ubuntu for
>> mail or calender anymore, nor do I use it for music (same thing happened).
>
> Over-reaction to the wrong issue. Evolution is entirely fine for mail
> and calendar, I use it all the time on Debian and Fedora.  Playing music
> with rhythmbox also works fine on Debian and Fedora. Also with mediatomb
> as a server.

rhythmbox is a miserable program (at least on Ubuntu). It has a marvy feature where it randomly stops playing, and only a cold boot will bring it back. It also has random problems syncing with my music file database which is on a Windows shared folder. Getting it to recognize a just-added CD was an exercise in madness. I usually wound up deleting rhythmbox's settings file and starting over.

I finally threw in the towel and don't use Ubuntu to play music anymore.

> Where were your backups. I can vapourize a Debian/Fedora dual boot
> machine and have it up and running with the last backup up state in 2
> hours. In the meantime I can be working on another machine and then have
> everything sync up in a matter of minutes.  Losing mail and data and OS
> configuration sounds like a lack of proper sys admin approach.

I'll admit my backups were less than stellar. I stupidly clicked the "upgrade Ubuntu" button first. I'll also admit to not having a whole lot of patience with the problems with it.
January 02, 2013
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 07:01:02 UTC, Bernard Helyer wrote:
> I am getting a whole _mess_ of "warning: statement not reachable"
> on everything after a final switch.

I can confirm this. Freaking annoying (and not really convincing me that D is stable) !
January 02, 2013
All I can say is I've never looked back since abandoning Canonical linuxes.  And Debian in general, really.  Hooray for Gentoo.

More on-topic: I do look forward to playing around with UDA's and seeing what kind of strange voodoo I can cook up with them.  Been anticipating this release for eons, it seems.
January 02, 2013
On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 23:58:08 Chris Nicholson-Sauls wrote:
> All I can say is I've never looked back since abandoning Canonical linuxes. And Debian in general, really. Hooray for Gentoo.

Glutton for punishment are we? I used to use it and got sick of stuff breaking on me during updates (if Walter doesn't like dealing with updates on Ubuntu, I'd be shocked if he liked dealing with updates on Gentoo). I use Arch these days, since it provides a lot of the benefits of Gentoo without anywhere near as many of the headaches.

But if I had to recommend an easy-to-use distro, I'd recommend OpenSuSE, but as with all such things, YMMV. For better or worse, Ubuntu is very popular.

- Jonathan M Davis
January 03, 2013
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 23:34:42 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> I'd be shocked if he liked dealing with updates on Gentoo). I use Arch these
> days, since it provides a lot of the benefits of Gentoo without anywhere near
> as many of the headaches.

+1 for Arch.
Have used almost everything Gentoo, Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse and ended up with Arch Linux. I am happy with it for almost two years now and wouldn't even consider switching to something else :)

It's a bit tougher to set up (though setup process is quite well documented), but once you install it - no bothers anymore!

Updates are as simple as 'pacman -Syu' (or some gui tool), it has excellent Wiki which had solution for every single problem I needed to solve and friendly forums and IRC.

Rolling release is a cool model too - I decide when I want to upgrade and system is always up-to-date.
January 03, 2013
On 1/2/2013 2:58 PM, Chris Nicholson-Sauls wrote:
> Been anticipating this release
> for eons, it seems.

Me too. I'm glad to get it out the door, as my head is boiling over with things I want to get done for the next version.

January 03, 2013
On 1/2/2013 2:45 PM, deadalnix wrote:
> On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 07:01:02 UTC, Bernard Helyer wrote:
>> I am getting a whole _mess_ of "warning: statement not reachable"
>> on everything after a final switch.
>
> I can confirm this. Freaking annoying (and not really convincing me that D is
> stable) !

Please post example to bugzilla.
January 03, 2013
dimsuz wrote:
> +1 for Arch.
> Have used almost everything Gentoo, Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSuse and ended up with Arch Linux. I am happy with it for almost two years now and wouldn't even consider switching to something else :)

Same here. After making my way through the most popular Linux distros, I eventually braved setting up Arch.. and I'll never go back. For me, it's the best OS I've ever used.. granted you make it past the setup and aren't afraid to open a terminal. That's also it's biggest (only?) flaw. Hopefully Manjaro/CinnArch are successful in creating a more user-friendly arch-based distro for the casual user.

January 03, 2013
On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 19:42:13 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 03:20:27 Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:19:54 bearophile wrote:
>> > Jonathan M Davis:
>> > But many months
>> > have passed between those two versions, many bugs have being
>> > removed, several features have being introduced, and so on (just look at the difference in the zip size between the two versions),
>> > so it's better for the users to be aware that some probably some
>> > user code will need to be fixed or improved to run on the 2.061.
>> 
> - Jonathan M Davis

Just for D2, 330 issues closed for this release !
Talk about a huge amount of work done.

Congrats to everybody, 2013 is looking good !