These tool seem core to D development and will likely simplify plugin dev. Are there any technical reasons why they are not bundled together in installer (such that each release comes with compatible versions of tools)?

In Ubuntu, there is a repo with all these tools and they work OK.

On Wednesday, 17 May 2017 at 09:00:12 UTC, aberba wrote:
> These tool seem core to D development and will likely simplify plugin dev. Are there any technical reasons why they are not bundled together in installer (such that each release comes with compatible versions of tools)?
>
> In Ubuntu, there is a repo with all these tools and they work OK.

And just recently, dmd snap comes with some tools bundled.

On Wednesday, 17 May 2017 at 09:00:12 UTC, aberba wrote:
> These tool seem core to D development and will likely simplify plugin dev. Are there any technical reasons why they are not bundled together in installer (such that each release comes with compatible versions of tools)?

Technically there are no blockers. Each product use more or less the same base libraries (mainly libdparse) but with git submodules or DUB tag the right version can be selected individually.

On Wednesday, 17 May 2017 at 09:00:12 UTC, aberba wrote:
> These tool seem core to D development and will likely simplify plugin dev. Are there any technical reasons why they are not bundled together in installer (such that each release comes with compatible versions of tools)?
>
> In Ubuntu, there is a repo with all these tools and they work OK.

Likely lack of time more than anything else:

https://github.com/dlang-community/D-Scanner/issues/353

If you have the time and want it in, maybe you can chip in?

On Wednesday, 17 May 2017 at 09:00:12 UTC, aberba wrote:
> These tool seem core to D development and will likely simplify plugin dev. Are there any technical reasons why they are not bundled together in installer (such that each release comes with compatible versions of tools)?
>
> In Ubuntu, there is a repo with all these tools and they work OK.

There's also the hope that one day SDC or dmd-fe can be used for plugin development as libdparse and its tools are inherently quite limited due to a missing semantic analysis phase.
Furthermore it's also a bit political e.g.

https://github.com/dlang-community/dfmt/issues/249

However, since a couple of days these tools have been moved to a community-maintained organization:

http://forum.dlang.org/post/abbprxuwgqlmuuwdfgmg@forum.dlang.org

This means that development in this area is a lot easier.
A couple of ideas:

1) Now that DMD can be packaged for distro, these tools could be put into the main distro (Debian/Ubuntu, Fedora/CentOS, openSUSE, ...) as well [1]
2) An bundled release could be automatically created on every commit to these repos [2]

I also opened these topics on dlang-community/discussions:

[1] Distro packaging: https://github.com/dlang-community/discussions/issues/8
[2] Bundled releases: https://github.com/dlang-community/discussions/issues/9

On 2017-05-17 12:01, Seb wrote:

> There's also the hope that one day SDC or dmd-fe can be used for plugin
> development as libdparse and its tools are inherently quite limited due
> to a missing semantic analysis phase.

I agree. Although the tools based on libdparse are here today and are working. The DMD frontend is far from being ready to be used as a library. Then the tools need to be built on top of the library as well. I have no idea about the status of SDC.

I think they should be included. Perhaps later when the DMD frontend is ready, the same tools can be included, just based on a different library.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg