September 19, 2012Re: [OT] Was: totally satisfied :D
Posted in reply to Nick Sabalausky
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 05:51:31PM -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:38:32 -0700 > "H. S. Teoh" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 08:49:58PM +0200, Mehrdad wrote: > > > It's pretty damn hard to convince Linux users that what you're > > > trying to do is, in fact, not out of stupidity/ignorance. > > > > It's pretty damn hard to convince Windows zealots that anything but > > the Windows way is not out of stupidity/ignorance. > > > > Windows zealots are pretty rare though. Most Windows users accept that > it's just an OS, and that it has its problems and downsides. (It'd be > pretty hard to be a Windows user and *not* accept that Windows has > it's problems.) Haha, true! [...] > > > What's "sloppy focus"? > > > > The window focus automatically changes to whatever window the mouse > > is currently hovering over. Preferably WITHOUT automatically > > bringing said window to the top. (Good luck making this work on > > Windows. And once you actually manage to coax Windows to do it, have > > fun seeing the train wreck that is your applications once you start > > using them this way.) > > > > Not exactly what you described, but similar: > > http://ehiti.de/katmouse/ > > When I point at something and scroll, I expect my *target* to scroll, > not whatever the hell random thing I just happened to have clicked on > last. Yeah, another annoyance -- not with Windows specifically but with GUI apps in general -- is the search function more often than not has an invisible cursor from which the next search begins, which may be COMPLETELY unrelated to what you're currently looking at (e.g. if you scrolled the screen after the previous search). Or a new search always starts from the top of the document/page/whatever regardless of where you currently are. This is completely counterintuitive and stupid, and makes it a royal pain esp. when you want to search starting from a specific location. > I would *HATE* using windows if I didn't have that. Unfortunately, it > doesn't *always* work on Win7 (usually does, though). Works great on > XP. > > But I agree, trying to do anything the non-Windows way on Windows > involves stupid PITA hacking, that doesn't always work right, *if* > it's even possible at all. Yeah, after attempting to do sloppy focus on Windows, I crawled back into a dark corner and wept silently as I conceded to doing things the Windows way. > And it's not *just* doing something the non-Windows way, it's even > specific *versions* of windows: You can't even get things the WinXP > way on Win7. Sure, *some* things you can, *sometimes*, with obscure > hacks that don't even always work... Yeah that's what I meant by "hood welded shut". Although it's probably more like "hood booby-trapped shut, open at your own risk". :-P > Man, I'm really gonna have to get around to upgrading my laptop from > Win7 back to XP sometime...Fuck this shit... "Upgrading back to XP", lol! T -- Windows 95 was a joke, and Windows 98 was the punchline.
September 20, 2012Re: [OT] Was: totally satisfied :D
Posted in reply to Nick Sabalausky
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 01:15:32AM -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:38:32 -0700 > "H. S. Teoh" <email@example.com> wrote: > > > I prefer to communicate in complete sentences rather than > > point-n-grunt. > > That's great :) > > I like both CLI and GUI, depending on what I'm doing, but that's > really good. Well, I was being a bit over the top. :-P GUIs do have their place, such as when you're dealing with, say, 3D CADs or inherently graphical tasks. But IMNSHO, GUIs are overused for tasks that they aren't necessarily the best interface for. I cringe everytime I have to construct an expression (boolean or otherwise) using a hilariously convoluted GUI dialogue with all manner of drop boxes and other assorted widgets---or worse, a deeply-nested set of menus that you have to wade through for every single term in the expression---when I could've just typed out the expression on the keyboard in less than 1/10 of the time it takes to point-n-grunt it out. Makes me feel like trying to write D code in K&R C, or worse, PHP. :-P (There goes my feeble attempt at bringing this back on topic.) T -- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners... -- Slashdotter