On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 19:34 +0000, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d wrote: […]
> I thought DMD wasn't included in free distros because of licensing issues?

Well it's about time the licences changed then.

> I don't think any major distro comes without LDC or GDC.

Indeed. However these do not have the speed of compilation of DMD. So for script use rdmd is essential, otherwise ldc2 and gdc are required as dmd generated code is awfully slow.

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On Sun, 2015-03-15 at 06:05 +0000, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d wrote: […]
> 
> You can't "distribute" repository. It could be good to move it to "dlang.org" domain though and suggest using it in "downloads" section instead of plain .deb package.

It would be a good first step to move d-apt from the current URL to apt.dlang.org.

Should also set up rpms.dlang.org for Fedora packages pending getting properly set up in rpmfusion.

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On 15/03/15 14:11, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> Experience tells us that Launchpad PPAs are fine for Ubuntu and no use
> for Debian.

Ack, that's a shame.  I have no direct experience from the Debian side, but I'd thought the PPAs did allow for creating package builds for Debian releases. :-(

On 15 Mar 2015 13:45, "Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d" < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
> On 15/03/15 14:11, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>
>> Experience tells us that Launchpad PPAs are fine for Ubuntu and no use for Debian.
>
>
> Ack, that's a shame.  I have no direct experience from the Debian side,
but I'd thought the PPAs did allow for creating package builds for Debian releases. :-(
>

I briefly looked at http://openbuildservice.org as an alternative IIRC. But didn't have the immediate patience to wait in a very long build queue.

On 3/15/15 5:25 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 14/03/15 18:31, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> I was looking at easy installation of dmd on ubuntu, and found this:
>>
>> http://d-apt.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> Should we make it part of the official distribution?
>
> It would be nice to have an official apt repo.  I find the way things
> are packaged there slightly unsatisfactory, inasmuch as it packages
> various different tools into the dmd-bin package (e.g. both dmd and
> rdmd) rather than allowing you to install/uninstall them separately.
>
> Alternatively, might be worth setting up a dlang PPA on Launchpad (I
> think it probably makes things easier setting up packages for multiple
> different Ubuntu and Debian installs).

Do we have one or more experts in all of the above with time at their disposal? -- Andrei

On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 13:13:25 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 19:34 +0000, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
>> I thought DMD wasn't included in free distros because of licensing issues?
>
> Well it's about time the licences changed then.
>

It would be nice if Walter commented on this, because there's no way to get DMD into any distro until this happens. I understand if he doesn't want to relicense it, but it would be nice.

quoting from the license file,

>The Software is copyrighted and comes with a single user license,
>and may not be redistributed. If you wish to obtain a redistribution license,
>please contact Digital Mars.

On 3/15/15 10:49 AM, weaselcat wrote:
> On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 13:13:25 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
>> On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 19:34 +0000, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> […]
>>> I thought DMD wasn't included in free distros because of licensing
>>> issues?
>>
>> Well it's about time the licences changed then.
>>
>
> It would be nice if Walter commented on this, because there's no way to
> get DMD into any distro until this happens. I understand if he doesn't
> want to relicense it, but it would be nice.

We'd want to but are not able to change the license. -- Andrei

On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 17:51:18 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 3/15/15 10:49 AM, weaselcat wrote:
>> On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 13:13:25 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 19:34 +0000, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>> […]
>>>> I thought DMD wasn't included in free distros because of licensing
>>>> issues?
>>>
>>> Well it's about time the licences changed then.
>>>
>>
>> It would be nice if Walter commented on this, because there's no way to
>> get DMD into any distro until this happens. I understand if he doesn't
>> want to relicense it, but it would be nice.
>
> We'd want to but are not able to change the license. -- Andrei

That's a shame.

Do you know if the backend license will remain with DDMD?

On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 17:52:45 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
> On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 17:51:18 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 3/15/15 10:49 AM, weaselcat wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 13:13:25 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 19:34 +0000, weaselcat via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>>> […]
>>>>> I thought DMD wasn't included in free distros because of licensing
>>>>> issues?
>>>>
>>>> Well it's about time the licences changed then.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It would be nice if Walter commented on this, because there's no way to
>>> get DMD into any distro until this happens. I understand if he doesn't
>>> want to relicense it, but it would be nice.
>>
>> We'd want to but are not able to change the license. -- Andrei
>
> That's a shame.
>
> Do you know if the backend license will remain with DDMD?

Actually, is DDMD just a frontend port? I feel sort of dumb now for not checking before asking that : )

On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 12:25:35 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
> On 14/03/15 18:31, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> I was looking at easy installation of dmd on ubuntu, and found this:
>>
>> http://d-apt.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> Should we make it part of the official distribution?
>
> It would be nice to have an official apt repo.  I find the way things are packaged there slightly unsatisfactory, inasmuch as it packages various different tools into the dmd-bin package (e.g. both dmd and rdmd) rather than allowing you to install/uninstall them separately.
>
> Alternatively, might be worth setting up a dlang PPA on Launchpad (I think it probably makes things easier setting up packages for multiple different Ubuntu and Debian installs).

I'm not sure Ubuntu allows hosting non-FLOSS in their PPAs.