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Is Andrei Stepping Back from D?
Aug 13
D. Klaw
3 days ago
12345swordy
3 days ago
bauss
2 days ago
Timon Gehr
2 days ago
bachmeier
2 days ago
Walter Bright
2 days ago
H. S. Teoh
2 days ago
Walter Bright
Aug 13
bachmeier
16 hours ago
Nick Treleaven
3 days ago
Sasha
August 13
Apologies if this is rather verboten to ask, but is Andrei moving away from D?
August 13
On Tuesday, 13 August 2019 at 15:26:35 UTC, D. Klaw wrote:
> Apologies if this is rather verboten to ask, but is Andrei moving away from D?

No, not completely. Just from a leadership role. See his remarks from the general meeting at DConf 2019:

https://youtu.be/cpTAtiboIDs?t=3049
August 13
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:26:35 AM MDT D. Klaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> Apologies if this is rather verboten to ask, but is Andrei moving away from D?

>From what he said at dconf this year, he is taking a less active role in D
in order to focus on his family. He's still involved with the D. He's still involved with the D Foundation. He's still working with the students he's been working with. He's still doing many of the D-related activities that he's been doing. However, as far as the DIP process goes, actively focusing on Phobos, and other activities that pertain to being one of the two heads of D, he's stepped back, and Atila Neves is now filling his role. So, for instance, when a DIP is reviewed, it's now Atila who makes the decision with Walter rather than Andrei, and poor Atila is now trying to watch all of the various Phobos PRs to keep track of what's going on. Andrei is still very much involved, just not in the same kind of leadership role that he has been, because he didn't feel that he could focus on it enough with what's going on with his family and how he's needed to focus on them.

- Jonathan M Davis



August 13
On Tuesday, 13 August 2019 at 15:45:04 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:26:35 AM MDT D. Klaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> Apologies if this is rather verboten to ask, but is Andrei moving away from D?
>
>>From what he said at dconf this year, he is taking a less active role in D
> in order to focus on his family. He's still involved with the D. He's still involved with the D Foundation. He's still working with the students he's been working with. He's still doing many of the D-related activities that he's been doing. However, as far as the DIP process goes, actively focusing on Phobos, and other activities that pertain to being one of the two heads of D, he's stepped back, and Atila Neves is now filling his role. So, for instance, when a DIP is reviewed, it's now Atila who makes the decision with Walter rather than Andrei, and poor Atila is now trying to watch all of the various Phobos PRs to keep track of what's going on. Andrei is still very much involved, just not in the same kind of leadership role that he has been, because he didn't feel that he could focus on it enough with what's going on with his family and how he's needed to focus on them.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis



The more we have more capable hands in the Dip decisions making the more the dlang will make progress.


As a very long member of the community and one with a thorough understanding of the language it will be better to be among the DIP decision. A committee of 5 persons will be better than 2.

If there have been 5 persons or more making decision about the DIp and standard library the pressure on andrei would not have been much to the point of letting go of some duties.

More hands pls



August 13
On Tuesday, 13 August 2019 at 20:08:14 UTC, GreatSam4sure wrote:

> The more we have more capable hands in the Dip decisions making the more the dlang will make progress.
>
>
> As a very long member of the community and one with a thorough understanding of the language it will be better to be among the DIP decision. A committee of 5 persons will be better than 2.
>
> If there have been 5 persons or more making decision about the DIp and standard library the pressure on andrei would not have been much to the point of letting go of some duties.
>
> More hands pls

I think it's safe to say that there is not a consensus that design by committee is the best approach for a programming language. The more informed input, the better, but the final decision has to be made by a small number of people. If there are n people making decisions, the language will reflect 1/n of the values of each decision maker.
6 days ago
On 8/13/19 11:38 AM, Mike Parker wrote:
> On Tuesday, 13 August 2019 at 15:26:35 UTC, D. Klaw wrote:
>> Apologies if this is rather verboten to ask, but is Andrei moving away from D?
> 
> No, not completely. Just from a leadership role. See his remarks from the general meeting at DConf 2019:
> 
> https://youtu.be/cpTAtiboIDs?t=3049

Thanks, Mike. And thanks to all for the concern - I also got a few private emails asking me for the juicy details. Of which there are none - my family needs me and some volunteering activities had to give way.

As Jonathan mentioned I'm still working with my students and working on the Foundation administration, legal, taxes, and finances.

I've been involved with D since 2005. That's an eternity in this business. I think bringing Atila to the fore is a great positive because it brings a fresh perspective and approach.
3 days ago
On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 at 15:14:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> As Jonathan mentioned I'm still working with my students and working on the Foundation administration, legal, taxes, and finances.
>
> I've been involved with D since 2005. That's an eternity in this business. I think bringing Atila to the fore is a great positive because it brings a fresh perspective and approach.

Hi Andrei,

Reading between the lines, I get the impression that you have given up on evolving D as a language? Can't say I am surprised.

Regards
3 days ago
On Saturday, 17 August 2019 at 09:46:45 UTC, Dibyendu Majumdar wrote:
> On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 at 15:14:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> As Jonathan mentioned I'm still working with my students and working on the Foundation administration, legal, taxes, and finances.
>>
>> I've been involved with D since 2005. That's an eternity in this business. I think bringing Atila to the fore is a great positive because it brings a fresh perspective and approach.
>
> Hi Andrei,
>
> Reading between the lines, I get the impression that you have given up on evolving D as a language? Can't say I am surprised.
>
> Regards

Don't read between the lines.

Alex.
3 days ago
On Saturday, 17 August 2019 at 09:46:45 UTC, Dibyendu Majumdar wrote:
> On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 at 15:14:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> As Jonathan mentioned I'm still working with my students and working on the Foundation administration, legal, taxes, and finances.
>>
>> I've been involved with D since 2005. That's an eternity in this business. I think bringing Atila to the fore is a great positive because it brings a fresh perspective and approach.
>
> Hi Andrei,
>
> Reading between the lines, I get the impression that you have given up on evolving D as a language? Can't say I am surprised.
>
> Regards

If you actually took time to read his message as well look at his statement given at dconf you'd know he definitely hasn't given up on D.
3 days ago
On 8/17/19 5:46 AM, Dibyendu Majumdar wrote:
> On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 at 15:14:41 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> As Jonathan mentioned I'm still working with my students and working on the Foundation administration, legal, taxes, and finances.
>>
>> I've been involved with D since 2005. That's an eternity in this business. I think bringing Atila to the fore is a great positive because it brings a fresh perspective and approach.
> 
> Hi Andrei,
> 
> Reading between the lines, I get the impression that you have given up on evolving D as a language? Can't say I am surprised.

You must have been in a state of continuous surprise over the past 15 years then.

This asinine remark reminds me of the rumor mill on the hallways at DConf 2019. "What happened to Vladimir? You must have done something terrible to him." Sure, let's confront Vladimir on why he only put one decade of his career into volunteering for a free project.
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