On 6 September 2015 at 07:20, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
> On 9/5/2015 5:54 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
>>
>> On Saturday, 5 September 2015 at 08:15:06 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>>>
>>> And your post did it too.
>>>
>>> If you're using the Thunderbird news reader, typing Cntl-U will show the
>>> full
>>> source of the message.
>>
>>
>> This is perfectly normal for emails and such. They are
>> multipart/alternative
>> MIME messages which pack different versions of the same message together
>> and
>> your client picks its preferred one to show you.
>>
>> It is kinda useless because the html version adds zero value, but the text version is still there to so your client should just ignore it.
>
>
> I know, and my client does, but given the size of the n.g. message database, doubling its size for no added value makes it slower.

Perhaps the NG server should make an effort to trim the wanted message
content then?
I'm still astonished I'm the only one that uses Gmail... this should
be a rampant problem.

On 9/5/2015 4:32 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> Perhaps the NG server should make an effort to trim the wanted message
> content then?

I'd rather work with NNTP as it is.

> I'm still astonished I'm the only one that uses Gmail... this should
> be a rampant problem.

It probably is a rampant problem. I notice it with you because Thunderbird gives a line count for a message, and yours are usually in the hundreds of lines while others are like 10 to 20.

Your last one was 109 lines long, although you only wrote 1 original line of text.

It also isn't helpful to include a quote of the whole previous message - just what you are specifically replying to.

On 5 Sep 2015 11:25 pm, "Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d" < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/5/2015 5:54 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
>>
>> On Saturday, 5 September 2015 at 08:15:06 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>>>
>>> And your post did it too.
>>>
>>> If you're using the Thunderbird news reader, typing Cntl-U will show
the full
>>> source of the message.
>>
>>
>> This is perfectly normal for emails and such. They are
multipart/alternative
>> MIME messages which pack different versions of the same message together
and
>> your client picks its preferred one to show you.
>>
>> It is kinda useless because the html version adds zero value, but the
text
>> version is still there to so your client should just ignore it.
>
>
> I know, and my client does, but given the size of the n.g. message
database, doubling its size for no added value makes it slower.

There's no way to change the Gmail client behaviour.  And I'm assuming that it isn't a recent feature either.

On 2015-09-06 02:54, Walter Bright wrote:

> It probably is a rampant problem. I notice it with you because
> Thunderbird gives a line count for a message, and yours are usually in
> the hundreds of lines while others are like 10 to 20.

Usually Thunderbird highlights the quoted part in blue and makes the '<' characters in to a solid line. I've noticed that for some messages that don't happen, recently for Iain's messages, but not for Manu's.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

On Friday, 4 September 2015 at 15:45:35 UTC, Luís Marques wrote:
> On Friday, 4 September 2015 at 14:59:12 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
>> Actually, browsers are deprecating NPAPI plugins. Flash is so dead…
>
> Could, in principle, Flash be supported through an extension, instead of a media / NPAPI plugin?

Btw, come across this flash emulator, in case you are interested:

https://github.com/mozilla/shumway

On Saturday, 5 September 2015 at 14:57:58 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
> On Friday, 4 September 2015 at 14:44:46 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>> I heard the TypeScript support for Visual Studio Code is really good.
>
> I'm crossing my fingers for an OS-X or Linux version of VS. ;)

You mean Visual Studio Code doesn't run on Linux?

On Sunday, 6 September 2015 at 12:31:27 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
> On Saturday, 5 September 2015 at 14:57:58 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
>> On Friday, 4 September 2015 at 14:44:46 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>>> I heard the TypeScript support for Visual Studio Code is really good.
>>
>> I'm crossing my fingers for an OS-X or Linux version of VS. ;)
>
> You mean Visual Studio Code doesn't run on Linux?

Oh, actually it appears to run on both OS-X and Linux. I didn't know that. Looks very promising, thanks!

On 6 September 2015 at 18:57, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
> On 2015-09-06 02:54, Walter Bright wrote:
>
>> It probably is a rampant problem. I notice it with you because Thunderbird gives a line count for a message, and yours are usually in the hundreds of lines while others are like 10 to 20.
>
>
> Usually Thunderbird highlights the quoted part in blue and makes the '<' characters in to a solid line. I've noticed that for some messages that don't happen, recently for Iain's messages, but not for Manu's.

It didn't happen for me because I changed my gmail settings after Walter requested some time back to only include plain text. My NG experience is much less enjoyable as a result of the change; I prefer the blue quote line, but now I just have a sea of '>' characters after turning it off. I preferred it before I changed my settings, but apparently I am invisible spamming.

On 9/6/2015 4:39 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> It didn't happen for me because I changed my gmail settings after
> Walter requested some time back to only include plain text. My NG
> experience is much less enjoyable as a result of the change; I prefer
> the blue quote line, but now I just have a sea of '>' characters after
> turning it off. I preferred it before I changed my settings, but
> apparently I am invisible spamming.

It is doing the right thing now, yay! :-)

BTW, Thunderbird's n.g. reader will transform the > into the blue line.

On 2015-09-06 15:24, Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= <ola.fosheim.grostad+dlang@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, actually it appears to run on both OS-X and Linux. I didn't know
> that. Looks very promising, thanks!

Yeah, it's built on the same framework as Atom. Or were you hoping for Visual Studio, sans Code, on OS X and Linux?

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg