As discussed yesterday at DConf, curl in phobos must go.

The plan is as follows.

1. undocument everything curl related in may 2016
2. deprecate everything curl related in may 2017
3. delete everything curl related in may 2018
3.1 move curl stuff to undead

PR: https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/4283

Am Fri, 06 May 2016 08:32:03 +0000
schrieb Robert burner Schadek <rburners@gmail.com>:

> As discussed yesterday at DConf, curl in phobos must go.
> 
> The plan is as follows.
> 
> 1. undocument everything curl related in may 2016
> 2. deprecate everything curl related in may 2017
> 3. delete everything curl related in may 2018
> 3.1 move curl stuff to undead
> 
> PR: https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/4283

Wouldn't it make sense to do 3.1 right now so people can switch earlier?

On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 08:32:03 UTC, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
> As discussed yesterday at DConf, curl in phobos must go.
>
> The plan is as follows.
>
> 1. undocument everything curl related in may 2016
> 2. deprecate everything curl related in may 2017
> 3. delete everything curl related in may 2018
> 3.1 move curl stuff to undead
>
> PR: https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/4283

I hope a replacement is planned, isn't it?

Andrea

On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 08:43:09 UTC, Johannes Pfau wrote:
> Wouldn't it make sense to do 3.1 right now so people can switch earlier?

Then every bugfix to curl needs to be put in two repos. And the idea is that people have two years to find a better solution. So hopefully when we put curl in undead in 2018 nobody is using it anymore.

On 05/06/2016 10:53 AM, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
> On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 08:43:09 UTC, Johannes Pfau wrote:
>> Wouldn't it make sense to do 3.1 right now so people can switch earlier?
> 
> Then every bugfix to curl needs to be put in two repos. And the idea is that people have two years to find a better solution. So hopefully when we put curl in undead in 2018 nobody is using it anymore.

Deprecated modules don't get bugfixes. It
is quite important to put it into undead the same moment it gets
deprecated because there is no real replacement available so existing
projects must have a clean migration path to keep working.

On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 08:32:03 UTC, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
> As discussed yesterday at DConf, curl in phobos must go.
>
> The plan is as follows.
>
> 1. undocument everything curl related in may 2016
> 2. deprecate everything curl related in may 2017
> 3. delete everything curl related in may 2018
> 3.1 move curl stuff to undead
>
> PR: https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/4283

Give it to the doom guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SAFSz8yxrE

On 5/6/16 10:32 AM, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
> As discussed yesterday at DConf, curl in phobos must go.
>
> The plan is as follows.
>
> 1. undocument everything curl related in may 2016
> 2. deprecate everything curl related in may 2017
> 3. delete everything curl related in may 2018
> 3.1 move curl stuff to undead
>
> PR: https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/4283

0. Write curl replacement

On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 09:00:24 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> Deprecated modules don't get bugfixes. It
> is quite important to put it into undead the same moment it gets
> deprecated because there is no real replacement available so existing
> projects must have a clean migration path to keep working.

sounds fair enough

so the changed schedule is
1. undocument everything curl related in may 2016
2. deprecate everything curl related in may 2017
2.1 move curl stuff to undead
2.2 no more bugfixes for curl stuff
3. delete everything curl related in phobos in may 2018

On 5/6/16 11:21 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 5/6/16 10:32 AM, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
>> As discussed yesterday at DConf, curl in phobos must go.
>>
>> The plan is as follows.
>>
>> 1. undocument everything curl related in may 2016
>> 2. deprecate everything curl related in may 2017
>> 3. delete everything curl related in may 2018
>> 3.1 move curl stuff to undead
>>
>> PR: https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/4283
>
> 0. Write curl replacement

So push dates to 2026-2028 then? ;)

-Steve

On 5/6/16 10:53 AM, Robert burner Schadek wrote:
> On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 08:43:09 UTC, Johannes Pfau wrote:
>> Wouldn't it make sense to do 3.1 right now so people can switch earlier?
>
> Then every bugfix to curl needs to be put in two repos. And the idea is
> that people have two years to find a better solution. So hopefully when
> we put curl in undead in 2018 nobody is using it anymore.
>

This is not a problem. Curl API isn't changing. I think it's a good idea to have it in undead early.

-Steve