May 12, 2006
Anders F Björklund wrote:
> jicman wrote:
> 
>> Ok, I give you that one... :-)
> 
> 
> Seriously, tabs are not *that* bad if everyone could just settle on a spacing for them (that isn't 8). Kinda like 8-bit character encodings, it works OK as long as everyone is "on the same page". (If only...)
> 
> The only language I know getting serious hiccups from tabs is Python.
> 
> --anders

That's because someone had a brain-aneurism thought about using whitespace indentation for scope control.

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Regards,
James Dunne
May 12, 2006
On Thu, 11 May 2006 19:55:52 -0500, James Dunne wrote:

> Anders F Björklund wrote:
>> jicman wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, I give you that one... :-)
>> 
>> Seriously, tabs are not *that* bad if everyone could just settle on a spacing for them (that isn't 8). Kinda like 8-bit character encodings, it works OK as long as everyone is "on the same page". (If only...)
>> 
>> The only language I know getting serious hiccups from tabs is Python.
>> 
>> --anders
> 
> That's because someone had a brain-aneurism thought about using whitespace indentation for scope control.

And don't forget RPGII. In that language, certain columns could only contain certain information

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Derek
(skype: derek.j.parnell)
Melbourne, Australia
"Down with mediocracy!"
12/05/2006 11:02:49 AM
May 12, 2006
James Dunne wrote:
> Anders F Björklund wrote:
> 
>> jicman wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I give you that one... :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Seriously, tabs are not *that* bad if everyone could just settle on a spacing for them (that isn't 8). Kinda like 8-bit character encodings, it works OK as long as everyone is "on the same page". (If only...)
>>
>> The only language I know getting serious hiccups from tabs is Python.
>>
>> --anders
> 
> 
> That's because someone had a brain-aneurism thought about using whitespace indentation for scope control.
> 

heheh, we've already gone over this once, but it was the other way around. We were talking about python, then we started talkig about how evil the tab character is!
May 13, 2006
Hasan Aljudy wrote:
> James Dunne wrote:
> 
>> Anders F Björklund wrote:
>>
>>> jicman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, I give you that one... :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seriously, tabs are not *that* bad if everyone could just settle on a spacing for them (that isn't 8). Kinda like 8-bit character encodings, it works OK as long as everyone is "on the same page". (If only...)
>>>
>>> The only language I know getting serious hiccups from tabs is Python.
>>>
>>> --anders
>>
>>
>>
>> That's because someone had a brain-aneurism thought about using whitespace indentation for scope control.
>>
> 
> heheh, we've already gone over this once, but it was the other way around. We were talking about python, then we started talkig about how evil the tab character is!

But... I love tabs!  They're great for indentation, but they should not be combined with spaces.  I *hate* arrowing through a bunch of spaces to get to the start of a statement - tabs go much quicker.  Plus it's such a hassle to reindent code with spaces when you're OCD about indentation and code readability...

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Regards,
James Dunne
May 13, 2006
On Sat, 13 May 2006 17:13:58 +1000, James Dunne <james.jdunne@gmail.com> wrote:



> But... I love tabs!  They're great for indentation, but they should not be combined with spaces.  I *hate* arrowing through a bunch of spaces to get to the start of a statement - tabs go much quicker.  Plus it's such a hassle to reindent code with spaces when you're OCD about indentation and code readability...

Get a better text editor ;-)

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Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
May 13, 2006
James Dunne wrote:
> Hasan Aljudy wrote:
> 
>> James Dunne wrote:
>>
>>> Anders F Björklund wrote:
>>>
>>>> jicman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I give you that one... :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, tabs are not *that* bad if everyone could just settle on a spacing for them (that isn't 8). Kinda like 8-bit character encodings, it works OK as long as everyone is "on the same page". (If only...)
>>>>
>>>> The only language I know getting serious hiccups from tabs is Python.
>>>>
>>>> --anders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's because someone had a brain-aneurism thought about using whitespace indentation for scope control.
>>>
>>
>> heheh, we've already gone over this once, but it was the other way around. We were talking about python, then we started talkig about how evil the tab character is!
> 
> 
> But... I love tabs!  They're great for indentation, but they should not be combined with spaces.  I *hate* arrowing through a bunch of spaces to get to the start of a statement - tabs go much quicker. 

even the most lame text editors I've seen support ctrl-arrow to jump to next word!!


> Plus it's such a hassle to reindent code with spaces when you're OCD about indentation and code readability...
> 

I lost you on OCD .. :)
May 13, 2006
Hasan Aljudy wrote:
> James Dunne wrote:
> 
>> Hasan Aljudy wrote:
>>
>>> James Dunne wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anders F Björklund wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> jicman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, I give you that one... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously, tabs are not *that* bad if everyone could just settle on a spacing for them (that isn't 8). Kinda like 8-bit character encodings, it works OK as long as everyone is "on the same page". (If only...)
>>>>>
>>>>> The only language I know getting serious hiccups from tabs is Python.
>>>>>
>>>>> --anders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's because someone had a brain-aneurism thought about using whitespace indentation for scope control.
>>>>
>>>
>>> heheh, we've already gone over this once, but it was the other way around. We were talking about python, then we started talkig about how evil the tab character is!
>>
>>
>>
>> But... I love tabs!  They're great for indentation, but they should not be combined with spaces.  I *hate* arrowing through a bunch of spaces to get to the start of a statement - tabs go much quicker. 
> 
> 
> even the most lame text editors I've seen support ctrl-arrow to jump to next word!!
> 

Yes, any decent editor will do that.  Tabs are more storage efficient.

> 
>> Plus it's such a hassle to reindent code with spaces when you're OCD about indentation and code readability...
>>
> 
> I lost you on OCD .. :)

Short for Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. :)

-- 
Regards,
James Dunne
May 14, 2006
James Dunne wrote:
> Hasan Aljudy wrote:
> 
>> James Dunne wrote:
>>
>>> Hasan Aljudy wrote:
>>>
>>>> James Dunne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anders F Björklund wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> jicman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, I give you that one... :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously, tabs are not *that* bad if everyone could just settle on a spacing for them (that isn't 8). Kinda like 8-bit character encodings, it works OK as long as everyone is "on the same page". (If only...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only language I know getting serious hiccups from tabs is Python.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --anders
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's because someone had a brain-aneurism thought about using whitespace indentation for scope control.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> heheh, we've already gone over this once, but it was the other way around. We were talking about python, then we started talkig about how evil the tab character is!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But... I love tabs!  They're great for indentation, but they should not be combined with spaces.  I *hate* arrowing through a bunch of spaces to get to the start of a statement - tabs go much quicker. 
>>
>>
>>
>> even the most lame text editors I've seen support ctrl-arrow to jump to next word!!
>>
> 
> Yes, any decent editor will do that.  Tabs are more storage efficient.
> 
>>
>>> Plus it's such a hassle to reindent code with spaces when you're OCD about indentation and code readability...
>>>
>>
>> I lost you on OCD .. :)
> 
> 
> Short for Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. :)
> 

Oh yeah, I have that. Just not with tabs :(
May 15, 2006
Hasan Aljudy wrote:
> James Dunne wrote:
> 
>> Hasan Aljudy wrote:
>>
>>> James Dunne wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hasan Aljudy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> James Dunne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anders F Björklund wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jicman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, I give you that one... :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seriously, tabs are not *that* bad if everyone could just settle on a spacing for them (that isn't 8). Kinda like 8-bit character encodings, it works OK as long as everyone is "on the same page". (If only...)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only language I know getting serious hiccups from tabs is Python.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --anders
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's because someone had a brain-aneurism thought about using whitespace indentation for scope control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> heheh, we've already gone over this once, but it was the other way around. We were talking about python, then we started talkig about how evil the tab character is!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But... I love tabs!  They're great for indentation, but they should not be combined with spaces.  I *hate* arrowing through a bunch of spaces to get to the start of a statement - tabs go much quicker. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> even the most lame text editors I've seen support ctrl-arrow to jump to next word!!
>>>
>>
>> Yes, any decent editor will do that.  Tabs are more storage efficient.
>>
>>>
>>>> Plus it's such a hassle to reindent code with spaces when you're OCD about indentation and code readability...
>>>>
>>>
>>> I lost you on OCD .. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Short for Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. :)
>>
> 
> Oh yeah, I have that. Just not with tabs :(

Yeah, I have a big case of it... A co-worker moved an icon on my desktop just to invoke my knee-jerk response of moving it back while trying to collaborate on some work. =P  It really bugged me and I can't explain why; needless to say it was quite a laugh...for him

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James Dunne
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