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April 20, 2012
Re: Closed development with Trello?
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:39 AM, simendsjo <simendsjo@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:31:59 +0200, Steven Schveighoffer <
> schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:41:20 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu <
>> SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org**> wrote:
>>
>>  On 4/20/12 4:45 AM, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20-04-2012 11:11, simendsjo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> D has been following a very open development process.
>>>>> There are public newsgroups, mailinglists, wiki, bugzilla and github.
>>>>> But as I understand, much development discussions (and/or planning?)
>>>>> have been moved to Trello.
>>>>> It doesn't seem to be a way to join in as a spectator (or even search
>>>>> for boards), and it feels like a big step in the wrong direction.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to make the Trello part open too?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The intention was to actually open the boards now, AFAIK.
>>>>
>>>> Andrei?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Opened all boards I own for viewing, voting, and commenting. Note that I
>>> don't own the Phobos review queue board so I could not edit it.
>>>
>>
>> Hm... I created the board, but I added you as an admin.  I see you did
>> actually open it up, so it should be open for people to look at.
>>
>> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:50:23 -0400, simendsjo <simendsjo@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks. Still need a link as there isn't a search function at trello.com
>>>
>>
>> huh?  I see a search box up top?  I didn't even know you could do a
>> link...
>>
>> try searching for dlang
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>
> "No results". It seems to only search for boards you are involved in. No
> global search.
>

I found the roadmap:
https://trello.com/board/roadmap/4f15dd5edc12a90c6f172baa

There's a 2.058 board too:
https://trello.com/board/2-058-started-2011-12-13-2751-issues-of-which-25-regressions-18-blocker-45-critical-158-major/4f1b347378e9431a08005917


I use Trello's own development board model (slightly modified) at work and
my bosses and I all seem to like it.  I think it's better than the one
board per version approach as it handles progress on something that doesn't
get completed in time for a release. Take a look at it here:

https://trello.com/board/trello-development/4d5ea62fd76aa1136000000c
April 20, 2012
Re: Closed development with Trello?
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:39:05 -0400, simendsjo <simendsjo@gmail.com> wrote:

> "No results". It seems to only search for boards you are involved in. No  
> global search.

That's kind of silly.  What is the point of having public boards if you  
can't find them?

I found under the guide that private organizations will not show up in  
searches.  I wonder if we can make it public...  Andrei?  I think that's  
the problem.

Brad found two boards for d, I'm assuming by searching for members.  It  
appears that no boards show up in searches.  But if dlang shows up after  
we make it public, that's a moot issue.

Aside from the ones you found, Brad, there is:  
https://trello.com/board/phobos-review-queue/4f33d3c6542c156960533efb

and the one for the 2.059 release, which is marked as private.

If whoever owns the organization wants to give me admin rights I'll gladly  
help maintain these sorts of things.  I probably won't be creating release  
boards, but I can help manage members and make sure the permissions are  
set properly.

-Steve
April 20, 2012
Re: Closed development with Trello?
On 4/20/12 2:18 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:39:05 -0400, simendsjo <simendsjo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "No results". It seems to only search for boards you are involved in.
>> No global search.
>
> That's kind of silly. What is the point of having public boards if you
> can't find them?
>
> I found under the guide that private organizations will not show up in
> searches. I wonder if we can make it public... Andrei? I think that's
> the problem.

Ah, aha! I made the org public. Thanks for following through.

Andrei
April 20, 2012
Re: Closed development with Trello?
On Friday, 20 April 2012 at 20:42:43 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
> On 4/20/12 2:18 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:39:05 -0400, simendsjo 
>> <simendsjo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "No results". It seems to only search for boards you are 
>>> involved in.
>>> No global search.
>>
>> That's kind of silly. What is the point of having public 
>> boards if you
>> can't find them?
>>
>> I found under the guide that private organizations will not 
>> show up in
>> searches. I wonder if we can make it public... Andrei? I think 
>> that's
>> the problem.
>
> Ah, aha! I made the org public. Thanks for following through.
>
> Andrei

And here is the link: https://trello.com/dlang (searching "dlang" 
still doesn't pull up anything...not sure what the search is even 
for).

Regards,
Brad Anderson
April 20, 2012
Re: Closed development with Trello?
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:44:16 -0400, Brad Anderson <eco@gnuk.net> wrote:

> On Friday, 20 April 2012 at 20:42:43 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 4/20/12 2:18 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:39:05 -0400, simendsjo <simendsjo@gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "No results". It seems to only search for boards you are involved in.
>>>> No global search.
>>>
>>> That's kind of silly. What is the point of having public boards if you
>>> can't find them?
>>>
>>> I found under the guide that private organizations will not show up in
>>> searches. I wonder if we can make it public... Andrei? I think that's
>>> the problem.
>>
>> Ah, aha! I made the org public. Thanks for following through.
>>
>> Andrei
>
> And here is the link: https://trello.com/dlang (searching "dlang" still  
> doesn't pull up anything...not sure what the search is even for).

Cool (about the dlang, that's an easy-to-use link).  I agree, the search  
is largely useless for finding things you don't know about.  But I think  
it does search in boards/cards/orgs you belong to.

There should *definitely* be a way to search for public orgs.

This link should probably be put on dlang.org somewhere...

-Steve
April 20, 2012
Re: Closed development with Trello?
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:50:30 +0200, Steven Schveighoffer  
<schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:44:16 -0400, Brad Anderson <eco@gnuk.net> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 20 April 2012 at 20:42:43 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>> On 4/20/12 2:18 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:39:05 -0400, simendsjo <simendsjo@gmail.com>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "No results". It seems to only search for boards you are involved in.
>>>>> No global search.
>>>>
>>>> That's kind of silly. What is the point of having public boards if you
>>>> can't find them?
>>>>
>>>> I found under the guide that private organizations will not show up in
>>>> searches. I wonder if we can make it public... Andrei? I think that's
>>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> Ah, aha! I made the org public. Thanks for following through.
>>>
>>> Andrei
>>
>> And here is the link: https://trello.com/dlang (searching "dlang" still  
>> doesn't pull up anything...not sure what the search is even for).
>
> Cool (about the dlang, that's an easy-to-use link).  I agree, the search  
> is largely useless for finding things you don't know about.  But I think  
> it does search in boards/cards/orgs you belong to.
>
> There should *definitely* be a way to search for public orgs.
>
> This link should probably be put on dlang.org somewhere...
>
> -Steve

A quite questionable design to not let public boards be searchable..
The Community section of dlang.org has links to github, wiki, forums,  
review queue etc.
What about replacing "Review Queue" to link to trello with a new text:  
"Development" or "Language and Library Development"?
April 24, 2012
Re: Closed development with Trello?
On Friday, 20 April 2012 at 20:42:43 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
> On 4/20/12 2:18 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:39:05 -0400, simendsjo 
>> <simendsjo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "No results". It seems to only search for boards you are 
>>> involved in.
>>> No global search.
>>
>> That's kind of silly. What is the point of having public 
>> boards if you
>> can't find them?
>>
>> I found under the guide that private organizations will not 
>> show up in
>> searches. I wonder if we can make it public... Andrei? I think 
>> that's
>> the problem.
>
> Ah, aha! I made the org public. Thanks for following through.
>
> Andrei

I tried to add myself to the review manager volunteer card. It 
seems I have to be member of the org in order to do that. Can you 
add me?

/Jonas (trello member: Jonas Drewsen)
April 24, 2012
Re: Closed development with Trello?
On Tuesday, 24 April 2012 at 08:43:18 UTC, Jonas Drewsen wrote:
> I tried to add myself to the review manager volunteer card. It 
> seems I have to be member of the org in order to do that. Can 
> you add me?

I was going to add you, but looks like you are already added 
(Andrei must have done it).

You can be added to the Phobos review board without being a 
member of dlang, but only if an admin of that board does it.  The 
setting is that only members of the organization can add 
*themselves* to the board but an admin can always add anyone.  I 
think this makes sense, if you disagree, let's discuss!

-Steve
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