March 16, 2012
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:42:15 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote:

>> On 16-03-2012 03:17, ixid wrote:
>> Do you think a minor renaming like using Dlang as the name consistently
>> would be damaging?
>
> But what about all those people who have D tattooed on their necks?
> D is awesome. Deeeee.

Just add lang.  Problem solved.

On to more serious threads...

-Steve
March 16, 2012
On 16 March 2012 03:23, ixid <nuaccount@gmail.com> wrote:

> D is a very poor name for a language. I appreciate it's late in the day for this and that it has probably been discussed before (not that I could find such a discussion with Google which relates to my point). Although the results for D are fine when googling for things like "D tutorial", more obscure terms are hard to find because "d" is so commonly used as a variable name. Searchability is important though I understand that this might be seen as a trivial point, it is a major human factor. The language would be far better off with a 3 to 5 letter identifier. It will succeed or fail for other reasons but an easily searchable name would help. Dlang as the search term isn't good enough because it's not actually the language's name, people don't use it that much when referring to D, nor do they usually use D2.
>

Do you have trouble googling for C? I find that D related results are
currently only around 4-5 down the google results list, and it'll only get
higher as it get's more popular.
C searches are fine... I am often surprised just how much influence
programmers seem to have on search results placement.


March 16, 2012
"Manu" <turkeyman@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.778.1331920080.4860.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
> On 16 March 2012 03:23, ixid <nuaccount@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> D is a very poor name for a language. I appreciate it's late in the day
>> for this and that it has probably been discussed before (not that I could
>> find such a discussion with Google which relates to my point). Although
>> the
>> results for D are fine when googling for things like "D tutorial", more
>> obscure terms are hard to find because "d" is so commonly used as a
>> variable name. Searchability is important though I understand that this
>> might be seen as a trivial point, it is a major human factor. The
>> language
>> would be far better off with a 3 to 5 letter identifier. It will succeed
>> or
>> fail for other reasons but an easily searchable name would help. Dlang as
>> the search term isn't good enough because it's not actually the
>> language's
>> name, people don't use it that much when referring to D, nor do they
>> usually use D2.
>>
>
> Do you have trouble googling for C? I find that D related results are
> currently only around 4-5 down the google results list, and it'll only get
> higher as it get's more popular.
> C searches are fine... I am often surprised just how much influence
> programmers seem to have on search results placement.
>

Google search results are different for everybody. They tailor the search results they give you based on your past search (and clickthrough) history. If you're doing a lot of programmer searches, they're going to start giving you more programmer results.

That's one of many reasons I used to use Scroogle, and now that Scroogle's dead (RIP), IxQuick and StartPage.

See also "Filter bubble": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble


March 16, 2012
On 16 March 2012 23:29, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:

> "Manu" <turkeyman@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.778.1331920080.4860.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
> > On 16 March 2012 03:23, ixid <nuaccount@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> D is a very poor name for a language. I appreciate it's late in the day for this and that it has probably been discussed before (not that I
> could
> >> find such a discussion with Google which relates to my point). Although
> >> the
> >> results for D are fine when googling for things like "D tutorial", more
> >> obscure terms are hard to find because "d" is so commonly used as a
> >> variable name. Searchability is important though I understand that this
> >> might be seen as a trivial point, it is a major human factor. The
> >> language
> >> would be far better off with a 3 to 5 letter identifier. It will succeed
> >> or
> >> fail for other reasons but an easily searchable name would help. Dlang
> as
> >> the search term isn't good enough because it's not actually the
> >> language's
> >> name, people don't use it that much when referring to D, nor do they
> >> usually use D2.
> >>
> >
> > Do you have trouble googling for C? I find that D related results are currently only around 4-5 down the google results list, and it'll only
> get
> > higher as it get's more popular.
> > C searches are fine... I am often surprised just how much influence
> > programmers seem to have on search results placement.
> >
>
> Google search results are different for everybody. They tailor the search results they give you based on your past search (and clickthrough) history. If you're doing a lot of programmer searches, they're going to start giving you more programmer results.
>

Perfect! So no problem then! Use D for a couple of months, and your search results will sort themselves out :)


March 21, 2012
A while back I put this search page together.  I killed the old domain, but have set the site up on a new domain.  In short, it is a custom Google search of D related web sites.  The list of sites is old, so if I need to add some, just let me know.  I would prefer to base urls that are strictly D related to keep the results 'pure'.

http://crdahl.com/d/

--Chris

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Manu <turkeyman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 March 2012 23:29, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
>>
>> "Manu" <turkeyman@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.778.1331920080.4860.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
>> > On 16 March 2012 03:23, ixid <nuaccount@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> D is a very poor name for a language. I appreciate it's late in the day
>> >> for this and that it has probably been discussed before (not that I
>> >> could
>> >> find such a discussion with Google which relates to my point). Although
>> >> the
>> >> results for D are fine when googling for things like "D tutorial", more
>> >> obscure terms are hard to find because "d" is so commonly used as a
>> >> variable name. Searchability is important though I understand that this
>> >> might be seen as a trivial point, it is a major human factor. The
>> >> language
>> >> would be far better off with a 3 to 5 letter identifier. It will
>> >> succeed
>> >> or
>> >> fail for other reasons but an easily searchable name would help. Dlang
>> >> as
>> >> the search term isn't good enough because it's not actually the
>> >> language's
>> >> name, people don't use it that much when referring to D, nor do they
>> >> usually use D2.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Do you have trouble googling for C? I find that D related results are
>> > currently only around 4-5 down the google results list, and it'll only
>> > get
>> > higher as it get's more popular.
>> > C searches are fine... I am often surprised just how much influence
>> > programmers seem to have on search results placement.
>> >
>>
>> Google search results are different for everybody. They tailor the search
>> results they give you based on your past search (and clickthrough)
>> history.
>> If you're doing a lot of programmer searches, they're going to start
>> giving
>> you more programmer results.
>
>
> Perfect! So no problem then! Use D for a couple of months, and your search results will sort themselves out :)
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