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March 16, 2012
Re: Changing the name of the language?
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:42:15 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic  
<andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote:

>> On 16-03-2012 03:17, ixid wrote:
>> Do you think a minor renaming like using Dlang as the name consistently
>> would be damaging?
>
> But what about all those people who have D tattooed on their necks?
> D is awesome. Deeeee.

Just add lang.  Problem solved.

On to more serious threads...

-Steve
March 16, 2012
Re: Changing the name of the language?
On 16 March 2012 03:23, ixid <nuaccount@gmail.com> wrote:

> D is a very poor name for a language. I appreciate it's late in the day
> for this and that it has probably been discussed before (not that I could
> find such a discussion with Google which relates to my point). Although the
> results for D are fine when googling for things like "D tutorial", more
> obscure terms are hard to find because "d" is so commonly used as a
> variable name. Searchability is important though I understand that this
> might be seen as a trivial point, it is a major human factor. The language
> would be far better off with a 3 to 5 letter identifier. It will succeed or
> fail for other reasons but an easily searchable name would help. Dlang as
> the search term isn't good enough because it's not actually the language's
> name, people don't use it that much when referring to D, nor do they
> usually use D2.
>

Do you have trouble googling for C? I find that D related results are
currently only around 4-5 down the google results list, and it'll only get
higher as it get's more popular.
C searches are fine... I am often surprised just how much influence
programmers seem to have on search results placement.
March 16, 2012
Re: Changing the name of the language?
"Manu" <turkeyman@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:mailman.778.1331920080.4860.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
> On 16 March 2012 03:23, ixid <nuaccount@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> D is a very poor name for a language. I appreciate it's late in the day
>> for this and that it has probably been discussed before (not that I could
>> find such a discussion with Google which relates to my point). Although 
>> the
>> results for D are fine when googling for things like "D tutorial", more
>> obscure terms are hard to find because "d" is so commonly used as a
>> variable name. Searchability is important though I understand that this
>> might be seen as a trivial point, it is a major human factor. The 
>> language
>> would be far better off with a 3 to 5 letter identifier. It will succeed 
>> or
>> fail for other reasons but an easily searchable name would help. Dlang as
>> the search term isn't good enough because it's not actually the 
>> language's
>> name, people don't use it that much when referring to D, nor do they
>> usually use D2.
>>
>
> Do you have trouble googling for C? I find that D related results are
> currently only around 4-5 down the google results list, and it'll only get
> higher as it get's more popular.
> C searches are fine... I am often surprised just how much influence
> programmers seem to have on search results placement.
>

Google search results are different for everybody. They tailor the search 
results they give you based on your past search (and clickthrough) history. 
If you're doing a lot of programmer searches, they're going to start giving 
you more programmer results.

That's one of many reasons I used to use Scroogle, and now that Scroogle's 
dead (RIP), IxQuick and StartPage.

See also "Filter bubble": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble
March 16, 2012
Re: Changing the name of the language?
On 16 March 2012 23:29, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:

> "Manu" <turkeyman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mailman.778.1331920080.4860.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
> > On 16 March 2012 03:23, ixid <nuaccount@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> D is a very poor name for a language. I appreciate it's late in the day
> >> for this and that it has probably been discussed before (not that I
> could
> >> find such a discussion with Google which relates to my point). Although
> >> the
> >> results for D are fine when googling for things like "D tutorial", more
> >> obscure terms are hard to find because "d" is so commonly used as a
> >> variable name. Searchability is important though I understand that this
> >> might be seen as a trivial point, it is a major human factor. The
> >> language
> >> would be far better off with a 3 to 5 letter identifier. It will succeed
> >> or
> >> fail for other reasons but an easily searchable name would help. Dlang
> as
> >> the search term isn't good enough because it's not actually the
> >> language's
> >> name, people don't use it that much when referring to D, nor do they
> >> usually use D2.
> >>
> >
> > Do you have trouble googling for C? I find that D related results are
> > currently only around 4-5 down the google results list, and it'll only
> get
> > higher as it get's more popular.
> > C searches are fine... I am often surprised just how much influence
> > programmers seem to have on search results placement.
> >
>
> Google search results are different for everybody. They tailor the search
> results they give you based on your past search (and clickthrough) history.
> If you're doing a lot of programmer searches, they're going to start giving
> you more programmer results.
>

Perfect! So no problem then! Use D for a couple of months, and your search
results will sort themselves out :)
March 21, 2012
Re: Changing the name of the language?
A while back I put this search page together.  I killed the old
domain, but have set the site up on a new domain.  In short, it is a
custom Google search of D related web sites.  The list of sites is
old, so if I need to add some, just let me know.  I would prefer to
base urls that are strictly D related to keep the results 'pure'.

http://crdahl.com/d/

--Chris

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Manu <turkeyman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 March 2012 23:29, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
>>
>> "Manu" <turkeyman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mailman.778.1331920080.4860.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
>> > On 16 March 2012 03:23, ixid <nuaccount@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> D is a very poor name for a language. I appreciate it's late in the day
>> >> for this and that it has probably been discussed before (not that I
>> >> could
>> >> find such a discussion with Google which relates to my point). Although
>> >> the
>> >> results for D are fine when googling for things like "D tutorial", more
>> >> obscure terms are hard to find because "d" is so commonly used as a
>> >> variable name. Searchability is important though I understand that this
>> >> might be seen as a trivial point, it is a major human factor. The
>> >> language
>> >> would be far better off with a 3 to 5 letter identifier. It will
>> >> succeed
>> >> or
>> >> fail for other reasons but an easily searchable name would help. Dlang
>> >> as
>> >> the search term isn't good enough because it's not actually the
>> >> language's
>> >> name, people don't use it that much when referring to D, nor do they
>> >> usually use D2.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Do you have trouble googling for C? I find that D related results are
>> > currently only around 4-5 down the google results list, and it'll only
>> > get
>> > higher as it get's more popular.
>> > C searches are fine... I am often surprised just how much influence
>> > programmers seem to have on search results placement.
>> >
>>
>> Google search results are different for everybody. They tailor the search
>> results they give you based on your past search (and clickthrough)
>> history.
>> If you're doing a lot of programmer searches, they're going to start
>> giving
>> you more programmer results.
>
>
> Perfect! So no problem then! Use D for a couple of months, and your search
> results will sort themselves out :)
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