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Lazy and GC Allocations
Feb 20, 2023
Etienne
Feb 20, 2023
Etienne
Feb 20, 2023
Etienne
February 20, 2023

Hello,

I'm wondering at which moment the following would make an allocation of the scope variables on the GC. Should I assume that the second parameter of enforce being lazy, we would get a delegate/literal that saves the current scope on the GC even if it's not needed? I'm asking purely for a performance perspective of avoiding GC allocations.

void main() {
 int a = 5;
 enforce(true, format("a: %d", a));
}

Thanks

Etienne

February 19, 2023

On 2/19/23 7:50 PM, Etienne wrote:

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Hello,

I'm wondering at which moment the following would make an allocation of the scope variables on the GC. Should I assume that the second parameter of enforce being lazy, we would get a delegate/literal that saves the current scope on the GC even if it's not needed? I'm asking purely for a performance perspective of avoiding GC allocations.

void main() {
  int a = 5;
  enforce(true, format("a: %d", a));
}

enforce takes a lazy variable, which I believe is scope by default, so no closure should be allocated.

Indeed, you can't really "save" the hidden delegate somewhere, so the calling function knows that the delgate can't escape.

-Steve

February 19, 2023

On 2/19/23 9:15 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

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Indeed, you can't really "save" the hidden delegate somewhere, so the calling function knows that the delgate can't escape.

I stand corrected, you can save it (by taking the address of it).

And it's explicitly allowed by the spec.

But.... it still doesn't allocate a closure!

See Adam's bug report: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23627

-Steve

February 20, 2023

On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 02:50:20 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

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See Adam's bug report: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23627

-Steve

So, according to this bug report, the implementation is allocating a closure on the GC even though the spec says it shouldn't?

I've been writing some betterC and the lazy parameter was prohibited because it allocates on the GC, so I'm wondering what the situation is currently

Etienne

February 20, 2023

On 2/20/23 1:50 PM, Etienne wrote:

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On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 02:50:20 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

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See Adam's bug report: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23627

So, according to this bug report, the implementation is allocating a closure on the GC even though the spec says it shouldn't?

The opposite, the delegate doesn't force a closure, and so when the variable goes out of scope, memory corruption ensues.

>

I've been writing some betterC and the lazy parameter was prohibited because it allocates on the GC, so I'm wondering what the situation is currently

It shouldn't. Now, lazy can't be @nogc (because that's just what the compiler dictates), but it won't actually use the GC if you don't allocate in the function call.

I just tested and you can use lazy parameters with betterC.

-Steve

February 20, 2023

On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 19:58:32 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

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On 2/20/23 1:50 PM, Etienne wrote:

>

On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 02:50:20 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

>

See Adam's bug report: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23627

So, according to this bug report, the implementation is allocating a closure on the GC even though the spec says it shouldn't?

The opposite, the delegate doesn't force a closure, and so when the variable goes out of scope, memory corruption ensues.

>

I've been writing some betterC and the lazy parameter was prohibited because it allocates on the GC, so I'm wondering what the situation is currently

It shouldn't. Now, lazy can't be @nogc (because that's just what the compiler dictates), but it won't actually use the GC if you don't allocate in the function call.

I just tested and you can use lazy parameters with betterC.

-Steve

The @nogc issue might be what might be why it didn't work for me. I use it because it's easier to work with betterC but perhaps I should avoid writing @nogc code altogether

Thanks for the info!

Etienne