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January 19, 2001 Any way people can contribute financially? | ||||
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I have seen so far Walter and Jan has been doing these with passions. I just want to know whether some form of financially contributions/donation may be good for all? BTW, I have been forwarding the announcements to Ron Burk at Windows Development Journal (www.wdj.com) and he has printed one at the reader's forum. Ron Burk does know who Walter is but I think DMC is not being used by Ron Burk. A while ago when Symantec was still selling the product, the bug lists, performance tests would include SC++. One good mention before was that when SC7.20 had a bug, Walter sent him the 7.21 patch in a matter of hours. I just wonder whether we should do a bit more pushing at WDJ for DMC ? Perhaps you guys might already have... |
January 19, 2001 Re: Any way people can contribute financially? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Kar Gay Lim | The product is a bit of a work in progress at the moment, so I wouldn't feel right about charging money for it. I do appreciate the thought, though! And heck, I'm enjoying myself working on it, and I think Jan is too. -Walter Kar Gay Lim wrote in message <94872b$1k62$1@digitaldaemon.com>... >I have seen so far Walter and Jan has been doing these with passions. I just want to know whether some form of financially contributions/donation may be good for all? > >BTW, I have been forwarding the announcements to Ron Burk at Windows Development Journal (www.wdj.com) and he has printed one at the reader's forum. > >Ron Burk does know who Walter is but I think DMC is not >being used by Ron Burk. A while ago when Symantec was >still selling the product, the bug lists, performance tests would >include SC++. One good mention before was that when SC7.20 >had a bug, Walter sent him the 7.21 patch in a matter of hours. > >I just wonder whether we should do a bit more pushing at WDJ for DMC ? Perhaps you guys might already have... > > > |
January 19, 2001 Re: Any way people can contribute financially? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Kar Gay Lim | Perhaps Ron can be invited to join in this newsgroup? Kar Gay Lim wrote in message <94872b$1k62$1@digitaldaemon.com>... >I have seen so far Walter and Jan has been doing these with passions. I just want to know whether some form of financially contributions/donation may be good for all? > >BTW, I have been forwarding the announcements to Ron Burk at Windows Development Journal (www.wdj.com) and he has printed one at the reader's forum. > >Ron Burk does know who Walter is but I think DMC is not >being used by Ron Burk. A while ago when Symantec was >still selling the product, the bug lists, performance tests would >include SC++. One good mention before was that when SC7.20 >had a bug, Walter sent him the 7.21 patch in a matter of hours. > >I just wonder whether we should do a bit more pushing at WDJ for DMC ? Perhaps you guys might already have... > > > |
January 19, 2001 Re: Any way people can contribute financially? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Kar Gay Lim | Kar Gay Lim wrote: > I have seen so far Walter and Jan has been doing these with passions. I just want to know whether some form of financially contributions/donation may be good for all? Well, I just LOVE the compiler. In many ways I feel like a owe it the things I do as it has allowed me to build my current life as it is. It is and has been the greatest software development tool for me for at least the last 10 years! Because of my early usage of the compiler I have been able to build a little business of my own. I work from my home and have been for longer than 10 years... I have been thinking about putting a "Gift Button" on the site for those that want to financially support. Although, the hours spent on support are numerous and I would charge any US company at least $125/hour. > BTW, I have been forwarding the announcements to Ron Burk at Windows Development Journal (www.wdj.com) and he has printed one at the reader's forum. > > Ron Burk does know who Walter is but I think DMC is not > being used by Ron Burk. A while ago when Symantec was > still selling the product, the bug lists, performance tests would > include SC++. One good mention before was that when SC7.20 > had a bug, Walter sent him the 7.21 patch in a matter of hours. > > I just wonder whether we should do a bit more pushing at WDJ for DMC ? Perhaps you guys might already have... I have been forwarding Ron everything I have got so far. Especially the design by contract stuff. One of the things that came up is that I wanted to create an InstallShield for the product so that an install would be easy for everyone. This way we could provide anyone as Ron with an InstallShield to make it easy on them. Also, when we want to commercialize the product again we will need to have an Install/Uninstall feature. I don't like it, but that seems to be the way the world works these days... Jan |
January 19, 2001 Re: Any way people can contribute financially? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter | Walter wrote:
> And heck, I'm enjoying myself working on it, and I think Jan is too.
Sure am, other wise I would not be doing it believe me!
Jan
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January 19, 2001 Re: Any way people can contribute financially? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter | Walter wrote:
> Perhaps Ron can be invited to join in this newsgroup?
I guess we could, but what I think what really would break in is a complete product in an InstallShield....
Jan
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January 22, 2001 Re: Any way people can contribute financially? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jan Knepper | Personally I like Wise Installations. Most applications that I do are SC++/DMC++ and Installshield need a bit of mucking around. (not sure about later versions... ). Installshield is probably better for VB programmer. Wise seems to work better with SC++/DMC++ based on my own experience.. Jan Knepper <jan@smartsoft.cc> wrote in message news:3A688865.64AD8676@smartsoft.cc... > Walter wrote: > > > Perhaps Ron can be invited to join in this newsgroup? > > I guess we could, but what I think what really would break in is a complete product in an InstallShield.... > > Jan > > |
January 23, 2001 Re: Any way people can contribute financially? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Kar Gay Lim | I have never looked at Wise Install. I use InstallShield Express 2.11 for
everything. All I do is DMC++. I have InstallShield figured out far enough
to make sure that the several patches for Win95/98 are being installed.
I might take a peek at Wise if I had time and money to get a version. For
now I will have to stick with InstallShield for these reasons.
Jan
Kar Gay Lim wrote:
> Personally I like Wise Installations. Most applications that I do
> are SC++/DMC++ and Installshield need a bit of mucking around.
> (not sure about later versions... ). Installshield is probably better
> for VB programmer.
>
> Wise seems to work better with SC++/DMC++ based on my
> own experience..
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> Jan Knepper <jan@smartsoft.cc> wrote in message news:3A688865.64AD8676@smartsoft.cc...
> > Walter wrote:
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> > > Perhaps Ron can be invited to join in this newsgroup?
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> > I guess we could, but what I think what really would break in is a complete product in an InstallShield....
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> > Jan
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> >
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January 23, 2001 Re: Any way people can contribute financially? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Kar Gay Lim | Me, I like xcopy installs <g>. I don't like anything that mucks with the registry, environment, system dlls, etc. Kar Gay Lim wrote in message <94if77$pbm$1@digitaldaemon.com>... >Personally I like Wise Installations. Most applications that I do >are SC++/DMC++ and Installshield need a bit of mucking around. >(not sure about later versions... ). Installshield is probably better >for VB programmer. > >Wise seems to work better with SC++/DMC++ based on my >own experience.. > >Jan Knepper <jan@smartsoft.cc> wrote in message news:3A688865.64AD8676@smartsoft.cc... >> Walter wrote: >> >> > Perhaps Ron can be invited to join in this newsgroup? >> >> I guess we could, but what I think what really would break in is a complete product in an InstallShield.... >> >> Jan >> >> > > |
January 23, 2001 Re: Any way people can contribute financially? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter | So do I... Or PKZip installs for that matter...
Howver, there are quite a number of users out there that don't...
Jan
Walter wrote:
> Me, I like xcopy installs <g>. I don't like anything that mucks with the registry, environment, system dlls, etc.
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> Kar Gay Lim wrote in message <94if77$pbm$1@digitaldaemon.com>...
> >Personally I like Wise Installations. Most applications that I do
> >are SC++/DMC++ and Installshield need a bit of mucking around.
> >(not sure about later versions... ). Installshield is probably better
> >for VB programmer.
> >
> >Wise seems to work better with SC++/DMC++ based on my
> >own experience..
> >
> >Jan Knepper <jan@smartsoft.cc> wrote in message news:3A688865.64AD8676@smartsoft.cc...
> >> Walter wrote:
> >>
> >> > Perhaps Ron can be invited to join in this newsgroup?
> >>
> >> I guess we could, but what I think what really would break in is a complete product in an InstallShield....
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