I'm trying to crate an application using the AppExpress feature of ProjectExpress (Project->New) in the IDDE.

Once I tick the "use AppExpress" and click "finish", I get the message in a Windows called CTL3DV2:

"This application uses SCT3D32.DLL, which has naot been correctly installed."

This particular DLL is in the \dm\bin folder. I understood from the docs that I didn't have to worry about any installation procedure other than copying the files and setting my path environment (which I did).

The IDDE gives 7.51 as version number when you click the "About" entry in Help. My current patch/version for the compiler is 8.1e.

Can you give me some advice?

TIA

Cesar

Try copying sct3d32.dll to your windows system directory (on my system it's
\winnt40\system32).

Cesar Rabak wrote in message <3BC8D9BB.6BC155C6@uol.com.br>...
>I'm trying to crate an application using the AppExpress feature of ProjectExpress (Project->New) in the IDDE.
>
>Once I tick the "use AppExpress" and click "finish", I get the message in a Windows called CTL3DV2:
>
>"This application uses SCT3D32.DLL, which has naot been correctly installed."
>
>This particular DLL is in the \dm\bin folder. I understood from the docs that I didn't have to worry about any installation procedure other than copying the files and setting my path environment (which I did).
>
>The IDDE gives 7.51 as version number when you click the "About" entry in Help. My current patch/version for the compiler is 8.1e.
>
>Can you give me some advice?
>
>TIA
>
>Cesar

Walter wrote:
> 
> Try copying sct3d32.dll to your windows system directory (on my system it's
> \winnt40\system32).

This does not cut in! The symptom keeps the same ;-(

Does this dll requires somo form of 'registering' like some VB controls?

Cesar Rabak wrote in message <3BC9B938.4C7EA226@uol.com.br>...
>Walter wrote:
>> Try copying sct3d32.dll to your windows system directory (on my system
it's
>> \winnt40\system32).
>This does not cut in! The symptom keeps the same ;-(
>Does this dll requires somo form of 'registering' like some VB controls?

I don't know what the problem is. I'll see if I can find out.

Cesar Rabak wrote in message <3BC9B938.4C7EA226@uol.com.br>...
>Walter wrote:
>> Try copying sct3d32.dll to your windows system directory (on my system
it's
>> \winnt40\system32).
>This does not cut in! The symptom keeps the same ;-(
>Does this dll requires somo form of 'registering' like some VB controls?

This message is generated by sct3d32.dll itself. It's a microsoft dll. To figure out why it does, I'd have to disassemble it <g>. If you want to give it a try, feel free!

Walter wrote:
> 
> Cesar Rabak wrote in message <3BC9B938.4C7EA226@uol.com.br>...
> >Walter wrote:
> >> Try copying sct3d32.dll to your windows system directory (on my system
> it's
> >> \winnt40\system32).
> >This does not cut in! The symptom keeps the same ;-(
> >Does this dll requires somo form of 'registering' like some VB controls?
> 
> I don't know what the problem is. I'll see if I can find out.

Thanks.

Walter wrote:
> 
> Cesar Rabak wrote in message <3BC9B938.4C7EA226@uol.com.br>...
> >Walter wrote:
> >> Try copying sct3d32.dll to your windows system directory (on my system
> it's
> >> \winnt40\system32).
> >This does not cut in! The symptom keeps the same ;-(
> >Does this dll requires somo form of 'registering' like some VB controls?
> 
> This message is generated by sct3d32.dll itself. It's a microsoft dll. To figure out why it does, I'd have to disassemble it <g>. If you want to give it a try, feel free!

Oh no! I remember being able to run the DM stuff from the CD in another machine, I'll try to figure out what may be wrong this way first...

Cesar Rabak wrote:
> 
> Walter wrote:
> >
> > Cesar Rabak wrote in message <3BC9B938.4C7EA226@uol.com.br>...
> > >Walter wrote:
> > >> Try copying sct3d32.dll to your windows system directory (on my system
> > it's
> > >> \winnt40\system32).
> > >This does not cut in! The symptom keeps the same ;-(
> > >Does this dll requires somo form of 'registering' like some VB controls?
> >
> > This message is generated by sct3d32.dll itself. It's a microsoft dll. To figure out why it does, I'd have to disassemble it <g>. If you want to give it a try, feel free!
> 
> Oh no! I remember being able to run the DM stuff from the CD in another machine, I'll try to figure out what may be wrong this way first...

I just tried in a win 95 no other software installed, only the OS, running from the CD, and the problem is the same...

What suprises me it that the message comes from a window which has the name "CTL3DV2". This DLL according to MIcrosoft's quickview utility is a 16 bit DLL!

Looking at APPX32.EXE be it with quickview or Serge Sorokin's ShowDep I can't find any reference (dependency) to this DLL! This is odd, isn't it?

For simple projects, AppExpress seems to generate the project, now for complex ones, it fails...

Will keep trying...

On Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:11:36 -0300, Cesar Rabak <csrabak@uol.com.br> wrote:

>Walter wrote:
>> 
>> Try copying sct3d32.dll to your windows system directory (on my system it's
>> \winnt40\system32).
>
>This does not cut in! The symptom keeps the same ;-(
>
>Does this dll requires somo form of 'registering' like some VB controls?

No, it is a message put out by the DLL when it detects that it is run from a dir not being the system dir. Try renaming the original in the DM\BIN directory to sct3d32.dll.old. Due to the way windows locates the dll, a simple copy won't help if the original is still loaded first. Sometimes you've gotta help windows a little........

Chris

Chris wrote in message ...
>On Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:11:36 -0300, Cesar Rabak <csrabak@uol.com.br> wrote:
>
>>Walter wrote:
>>>
>>> Try copying sct3d32.dll to your windows system directory (on my system
it's
>>> \winnt40\system32).
>>
>>This does not cut in! The symptom keeps the same ;-(
>>
>>Does this dll requires somo form of 'registering' like some VB controls?
>
>No, it is a message put out by the DLL when it detects that it is run from a dir not being the system dir. Try renaming the original in the DM\BIN directory to sct3d32.dll.old. Due to the way windows locates the dll, a simple copy won't help if the original is still loaded first. Sometimes you've gotta help windows a little........
>
>Chris


If this works for Cesar, I'll put it in the FAQ, as I'm sure it'll come up again. Sigh. I've always hated installation programs, which is why I try to get things to work without needing installation. sct3d32.dll is determined to thwart me <g>.