The v2.066.0-b3 binaries are now available. The review period for beta 3 will run until 0700 UTC (0000 PDT, 0300 EDT, 1600 JST) on 14 July 2014, at which time binaries for RC1 will be produced and released. Due diligence in identifying regressions as early as possible is requested and appreciated. Issue 13101, [1], is provided for identifying anyfixedregressions that needs to be picked and included in RC1.

B3 binaries are located here:

    ALL
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.zip

    OSX
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.dmg
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.osx.zip

    FREEBSD
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-64.zip
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-32.zip

    LINUX
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.linux.zip
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
 ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.i386.rpm
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
    ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
 ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb

    WINDOWS
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0-b3.exe
    ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.windows.zip

A maintenance release is scheduled for 2.065 on September 15. Request assistance in identifying non-breaking changes (fixes) for inclusion in 2.065.1 by 30 August. Issue 13036, [2], is opened for documenting/consolidating candidates for the point release.

Enjoy,
Andrew

[1] [Cherry-pick v2.066.0-rc1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13101
[2] [Cherry-pick v2.065.1-b1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13036

For convenience, the list of unresolved issues marked as regressions: https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=regression&resolution=---

Seems like there is still quite a way to go until we can release RC1.

David

And also available on downloads.dlang.org

(you know, if I had advance notice of the beta, you could just point people at that link rather than the digitalmars link which is a whole lot slower)

On 7/11/14, 5:00 PM, Andrew Edwards via dmd-beta wrote:
> The v2.066.0-b3 binaries are now available. The review period for beta 3 will run until 0700 UTC
> (0000 PDT, 0300 EDT, 1600 JST) on 14 July 2014, at which time binaries for RC1 will be produced and
> released. Due diligence in identifying regressions as early as possible is requested and
> appreciated. Issue 13101, [1], is provided for identifying anyfixedregressions that needs to be
> picked and included in RC1.
>
> B3 binaries are located here:
>
>      ALL
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.zip
>
>      OSX
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.dmg
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.osx.zip
>
>      FREEBSD
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-64.zip
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-32.zip
>
>      LINUX
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.linux.zip
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
>   ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.i386.rpm
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
>   ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
>
>      WINDOWS
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0-b3.exe
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.windows.zip
>
> A maintenance release is scheduled for 2.065 on September 15. Request assistance in identifying
> non-breaking changes (fixes) for inclusion in 2.065.1 by 30 August. Issue 13036, [2], is opened for
> documenting/consolidating candidates for the point release.
>
> Enjoy,
> Andrew
>
> [1] [Cherry-pick v2.066.0-rc1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13101
> [2] [Cherry-pick v2.065.1-b1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13036
> _______________________________________________
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Also available at downloads.dlang.org

On 7/11/14, 5:00 PM, Andrew Edwards via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> The v2.066.0-b3 binaries are now available. The review period for beta 3 will run until 0700 UTC
> (0000 PDT, 0300 EDT, 1600 JST) on 14 July 2014, at which time binaries for RC1 will be produced and
> released. Due diligence in identifying regressions as early as possible is requested and
> appreciated. Issue 13101, [1], is provided for identifying anyfixedregressions that needs to be
> picked and included in RC1.
>
> B3 binaries are located here:
>
>      ALL
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.zip
>
>      OSX
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.dmg
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.osx.zip
>
>      FREEBSD
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-64.zip
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-32.zip
>
>      LINUX
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.linux.zip
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
>   ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.i386.rpm
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
>   ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
>
>      WINDOWS
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0-b3.exe
>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.windows.zip
>
> A maintenance release is scheduled for 2.065 on September 15. Request assistance in identifying
> non-breaking changes (fixes) for inclusion in 2.065.1 by 30 August. Issue 13036, [2], is opened for
> documenting/consolidating candidates for the point release.
>
> Enjoy,
> Andrew
>
> [1] [Cherry-pick v2.066.0-rc1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13101
> [2] [Cherry-pick v2.065.1-b1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13036

2014-07-12 9:00 GMT+09:00 Andrew Edwards via dmd-beta < dmd-beta@puremagic.com>:

> The v2.066.0-b3 binaries are now available. The review period for beta 3 will run until 0700 UTC (0000 PDT, 0300 EDT, 1600 JST) on 14 July 2014, at which time binaries for RC1 will be produced and released. Due diligence in identifying regressions as early as possible is requested and appreciated. Issue 13101, [1], is provided for identifying anyfixedregressions that needs to be picked and included in RC1.


To Andrew Edwards:

I think you made wrong beta3 release, because v2.066.0-b3 tag is not on the HEAD of each repos.

For example, in dmd repository:

https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/commits/2.066
==
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/commit/2b795569cd892801050faec80054d91c1fb54d3c

https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/commits/v2.066.0-b3
==
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/commit/5732690e5d191531abf6f9a5f7b5046e0cb50905

Kenji Hara

We need to smooth that process so we can gather meaningful statistics. Right now I have no idea on how to get stats from the ftp site, and the only means I have to get stats from S3 is to annoy Brad into sending them to me.

WE MUST COLLECT DATA. YOU CAN'T IMPROVE WHAT YOU CAN'T MEASURE.


Andrei

On 7/11/14, 5:53 PM, Brad Roberts via dmd-beta wrote:
> And also available on downloads.dlang.org
>
> (you know, if I had advance notice of the beta, you could just point
> people at that link rather than the digitalmars link which is a whole
> lot slower)
>
> On 7/11/14, 5:00 PM, Andrew Edwards via dmd-beta wrote:
>> The v2.066.0-b3 binaries are now available. The review period for beta
>> 3 will run until 0700 UTC
>> (0000 PDT, 0300 EDT, 1600 JST) on 14 July 2014, at which time binaries
>> for RC1 will be produced and
>> released. Due diligence in identifying regressions as early as
>> possible is requested and
>> appreciated. Issue 13101, [1], is provided for identifying
>> anyfixedregressions that needs to be
>> picked and included in RC1.
>>
>> B3 binaries are located here:
>>
>>      ALL
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.zip
>>
>>      OSX
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.dmg
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.osx.zip
>>
>>      FREEBSD
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-64.zip
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-32.zip
>>
>>      LINUX
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.linux.zip
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
>>   ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.i386.rpm
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
>>   ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
>>
>>      WINDOWS
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0-b3.exe
>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.windows.zip
>>
>> A maintenance release is scheduled for 2.065 on September 15. Request
>> assistance in identifying
>> non-breaking changes (fixes) for inclusion in 2.065.1 by 30 August.
>> Issue 13036, [2], is opened for
>> documenting/consolidating candidates for the point release.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> Andrew
>>
>> [1] [Cherry-pick
>> v2.066.0-rc1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13101
>> [2] [Cherry-pick
>> v2.065.1-b1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13036
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.puremagic.com/mailman/listinfo/dmd-beta
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Pretty sure Brad already proved your stats tend to be wrong, so forget the stats.

On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Andrei Alexandrescu via dmd-beta < dmd-beta@puremagic.com> wrote:
> We need to smooth that process so we can gather meaningful statistics.
Right now I have no idea on how to get stats from the ftp site, and the only means I have to get stats from S3 is to annoy Brad into sending them to me.
>
> WE MUST COLLECT DATA. YOU CAN'T IMPROVE WHAT YOU CAN'T MEASURE.
>
>
> Andrei
>
> On 7/11/14, 5:53 PM, Brad Roberts via dmd-beta wrote:
>>
>> And also available on downloads.dlang.org
>>
>> (you know, if I had advance notice of the beta, you could just point people at that link rather than the digitalmars link which is a whole lot slower)
>>
>> On 7/11/14, 5:00 PM, Andrew Edwards via dmd-beta wrote:
>>>
>>> The v2.066.0-b3 binaries are now available. The review period for beta
>>> 3 will run until 0700 UTC
>>> (0000 PDT, 0300 EDT, 1600 JST) on 14 July 2014, at which time binaries
>>> for RC1 will be produced and
>>> released. Due diligence in identifying regressions as early as
>>> possible is requested and
>>> appreciated. Issue 13101, [1], is provided for identifying
>>> anyfixedregressions that needs to be
>>> picked and included in RC1.
>>>
>>> B3 binaries are located here:
>>>
>>>      ALL
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.zip
>>>
>>>      OSX
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.dmg
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.osx.zip
>>>
>>>      FREEBSD
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-64.zip
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-32.zip
>>>
>>>      LINUX
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.linux.zip
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
>>>   ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.i386.rpm
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
>>>   ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
>>>
>>>      WINDOWS
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0-b3.exe
>>>      ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.windows.zip
>>>
>>> A maintenance release is scheduled for 2.065 on September 15. Request
>>> assistance in identifying
>>> non-breaking changes (fixes) for inclusion in 2.065.1 by 30 August.
>>> Issue 13036, [2], is opened for
>>> documenting/consolidating candidates for the point release.
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> [1] [Cherry-pick
>>> v2.066.0-rc1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13101
>>> [2] [Cherry-pick
>>> v2.065.1-b1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13036
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dmd-beta mailing list
>>> dmd-beta@puremagic.com
>>> http://lists.puremagic.com/mailman/listinfo/dmd-beta
>>
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On Saturday, 12 July 2014 at 00:13:47 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote:
> For convenience, the list of unresolved issues marked as regressions: https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=regression&resolution=---
>
> Seems like there is still quite a way to go until we can release RC1.
>
> David


There is 1027 issues here... We can't even clear a list of 10
issues, what makes you think we can clear this list before the
next release?

On second thought this is a list of all issues ever marked as
regressions. This might be what you intended:

https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&list_id=47252&query_format=advanced

On 2014-07-12 15:21, AfroboyX wrote:

> There is 1027 issues here... We can't even clear a list of 10
> issues, what makes you think we can clear this list before the
> next release?

The last three dashes of the URL is part of the link as well but is apparently not recognized as part of the link. If you add the three dashes you can see it's only 9 issues, the ones that are open.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

I don't recall that myself.  But anyway, we have the data from s3.  That I'm not gathering it and sharing it terribly routinely is a different (yet no less important) issue.

On 7/12/14, 3:09 AM, Andrej Mitrovic via dmd-beta wrote:
> Pretty sure Brad already proved your stats tend to be wrong, so forget the stats.
>
> On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Andrei Alexandrescu via dmd-beta <dmd-beta@puremagic.com
> <mailto:dmd-beta@puremagic.com>> wrote:
>  > We need to smooth that process so we can gather meaningful statistics. Right now I have no idea
> on how to get stats from the ftp site, and the only means I have to get stats from S3 is to annoy
> Brad into sending them to me.
>  >
>  > WE MUST COLLECT DATA. YOU CAN'T IMPROVE WHAT YOU CAN'T MEASURE.
>  >
>  >
>  > Andrei
>  >
>  > On 7/11/14, 5:53 PM, Brad Roberts via dmd-beta wrote:
>  >>
>  >> And also available on downloads.dlang.org <http://downloads.dlang.org>
>  >>
>  >> (you know, if I had advance notice of the beta, you could just point
>  >> people at that link rather than the digitalmars link which is a whole
>  >> lot slower)
>  >>
>  >> On 7/11/14, 5:00 PM, Andrew Edwards via dmd-beta wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>> The v2.066.0-b3 binaries are now available. The review period for beta
>  >>> 3 will run until 0700 UTC
>  >>> (0000 PDT, 0300 EDT, 1600 JST) on 14 July 2014, at which time binaries
>  >>> for RC1 will be produced and
>  >>> released. Due diligence in identifying regressions as early as
>  >>> possible is requested and
>  >>> appreciated. Issue 13101, [1], is provided for identifying
>  >>> anyfixedregressions that needs to be
>  >>> picked and included in RC1.
>  >>>
>  >>> B3 binaries are located here:
>  >>>
>  >>>      ALL
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.zip <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.zip>
>  >>>
>  >>>      OSX
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.dmg <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.dmg>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.osx.zip <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.osx.zip>
>  >>>
>  >>>      FREEBSD
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-64.zip
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-64.zip>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-32.zip
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.freebsd-32.zip>
>  >>>
>  >>>      LINUX
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.linux.zip <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.linux.zip>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.i386.rpm
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.i386.rpm>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0~b3-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_i386.deb>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/libphobos2-66_2.066.0~b3-0_amd64.deb>
>  >>>
>  >>>      WINDOWS
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0-b3.exe <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.066.0-b3.exe>
>  >>> ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.windows.zip
> <http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.066.0-b3.windows.zip>
>  >>>
>  >>> A maintenance release is scheduled for 2.065 on September 15. Request
>  >>> assistance in identifying
>  >>> non-breaking changes (fixes) for inclusion in 2.065.1 by 30 August.
>  >>> Issue 13036, [2], is opened for
>  >>> documenting/consolidating candidates for the point release.
>  >>>
>  >>> Enjoy,
>  >>> Andrew
>  >>>
>  >>> [1] [Cherry-pick
>  >>> v2.066.0-rc1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13101
>  >>> [2] [Cherry-pick
>  >>> v2.065.1-b1]https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13036
>  >>> _______________________________________________
>  >>> dmd-beta mailing list
>  >>> dmd-beta@puremagic.com <mailto:dmd-beta@puremagic.com>
>  >>> http://lists.puremagic.com/mailman/listinfo/dmd-beta
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