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[dmd-internals] New committers for druntime, phobos, dpl.org, and tools repos
Re: [phobos] [dmd-internals] New committers for druntime, phobos, dpl.org, and tools repos
Re: [dmd-internals] New committers for druntime, phobos, dpl.org, and tools repos
Dec 05, 2012
Brad Roberts
Dec 06, 2012
Sean Kelly
Dec 06, 2012
Jonathan M Davis
Dec 07, 2012
Jonathan M Davis
November 22, 2012
Hi folks,

I'd like to propose giving the following people commit rights to the druntime, phobos, dpl.org, and tools repos:

* David Nadlinger (https://github.com/klickverbot)
* Dmitry Olshansky (https://github.com/blackwhale)
* Iain Buclaw (https://github.com/ibuclaw)
* Vladimir Panteleev (https://github.com/CyberShadow)

Please send an off-list email my way with your vote/thoughts.

Thanks!

Regards,
Alex
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December 05, 2012
Ping. I've only received 3 replies so far...

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen <xtzgzorex@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'd like to propose giving the following people commit rights to the druntime, phobos, dpl.org, and tools repos:
>
> * David Nadlinger (https://github.com/klickverbot)
> * Dmitry Olshansky (https://github.com/blackwhale)
> * Iain Buclaw (https://github.com/ibuclaw)
> * Vladimir Panteleev (https://github.com/CyberShadow)
>
> Please send an off-list email my way with your vote/thoughts.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Alex
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December 05, 2012
Let's make a deadline - not replying by Sunday entails an implicit "yes" vote.

Thanks,

Andrei

On 12/5/12 3:18 AM, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
> Ping. I've only received 3 replies so far...
>
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen
> <xtzgzorex@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'd like to propose giving the following people commit rights to the
>> druntime, phobos, dpl.org, and tools repos:
>>
>> * David Nadlinger (https://github.com/klickverbot)
>> * Dmitry Olshansky (https://github.com/blackwhale)
>> * Iain Buclaw (https://github.com/ibuclaw)
>> * Vladimir Panteleev (https://github.com/CyberShadow)
>>
>> Please send an off-list email my way with your vote/thoughts.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alex
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December 05, 2012
I thoroughly object to _this_ (rather than the individuals).  Not voting is an implicit abstain.  It might well mean that the vote is 1 to 0 based on the lack of objections.  But it is NOT a unanimous yes based on no votes.

On 12/5/2012 7:42 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Let's make a deadline - not replying by Sunday entails an implicit "yes" vote.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andrei
> 
> On 12/5/12 3:18 AM, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
>> Ping. I've only received 3 replies so far...
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen <xtzgzorex@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I'd like to propose giving the following people commit rights to the druntime, phobos, dpl.org, and tools repos:
>>>
>>> * David Nadlinger (https://github.com/klickverbot)
>>> * Dmitry Olshansky (https://github.com/blackwhale)
>>> * Iain Buclaw (https://github.com/ibuclaw)
>>> * Vladimir Panteleev (https://github.com/CyberShadow)
>>>
>>> Please send an off-list email my way with your vote/thoughts.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alex

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December 05, 2012
On 12/5/12 12:01 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
> I thoroughly object to _this_ (rather than the individuals).

The problem with such is that it dooms us to inaction.

Andrei
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December 06, 2012
On Dec 5, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu <andrei@erdani.com> wrote:

> On 12/5/12 12:01 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
>> I thoroughly object to _this_ (rather than the individuals).
> 
> The problem with such is that it dooms us to inaction.

And the problem with implicit assent is that it dooms us to wrong action.  This vote is already weighted towards approval, why assume that everyone who hasn't responded will vote "yes" as well?  It isn't even necessary in this case.  Speaking personally, I simply hadn't seen this thread until today.  The same message being sent to multiple lists interacted a bit weirdly with my mail routing rules.
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December 06, 2012
On Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:16:59 Sean Kelly wrote:
> The same message being sent to multiple lists interacted a bit weirdly with my mail routing rules.

Yeah. I always have problems when people cross-post. It's not the end of the world, but I'd prefer that separate posts were sent rather than sending them to all of the lists at the same time.

- Jonathan m Davis
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December 07, 2012
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg@gmx.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:16:59 Sean Kelly wrote:
>> The same message being sent to multiple lists interacted a bit weirdly with my mail routing rules.
>
> Yeah. I always have problems when people cross-post. It's not the end of the world, but I'd prefer that separate posts were sent rather than sending them to all of the lists at the same time.
>
> - Jonathan m Davis

It would be a pretty big pain in the ass to collect votes if I had to
watch 3 different email threads (I already get some 200 emails per
day). :)

What kind of problems are you having, though? Always works OK for me.

Regards,
Alex
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December 06, 2012
On Friday, December 07, 2012 05:35:01 Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg@gmx.com>
wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:16:59 Sean Kelly wrote:
> >> The same message being sent to multiple lists interacted a bit weirdly with my mail routing rules.
> > 
> > Yeah. I always have problems when people cross-post. It's not the end of the world, but I'd prefer that separate posts were sent rather than sending them to all of the lists at the same time.
> > 
> > - Jonathan m Davis
> 
> It would be a pretty big pain in the ass to collect votes if I had to
> watch 3 different email threads (I already get some 200 emails per
> day). :)
> 
> What kind of problems are you having, though? Always works OK for me.

The filters get screwed up by them so they never get triaged properly, and there's no way to fix that, because all 3 of the messages are the same. So, instead of going into the dmd-internals, druntime, and Phobos folders like they should, they all end up in my inbox. If they were sent to each list individually (even if the body of the messages were identical), then that wouldn't be a problem - the "To" fields just need to not contain multiple lists in them. But obviously that isn't the case with cross-posting.

Like I said, it's not the end of the world, but it is annoying.

And actually, I'm inclined to think that most posts like this should just go to the Phobos list rather than being cross-posted, because the conversations end up in up to 3 separate lists this way, and I would think that all of the devs with commit access would be subscribed to the Phobos list. If a post is specifically for internals or druntime, then posting there makes sense, but I don't know that it helps us any to post the same thing to 3 different lists.

Again, it's not the end of the world, but it is somewhat problematic.

- Jonathan M Davis
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December 16, 2012
And another ping.

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen <xtzgzorex@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'd like to propose giving the following people commit rights to the druntime, phobos, dpl.org, and tools repos:
>
> * David Nadlinger (https://github.com/klickverbot)
> * Dmitry Olshansky (https://github.com/blackwhale)
> * Iain Buclaw (https://github.com/ibuclaw)
> * Vladimir Panteleev (https://github.com/CyberShadow)
>
> Please send an off-list email my way with your vote/thoughts.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Alex
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