Is there going to be a survey this year?

Jun 17, 2019

aliak

Jun 17, 2019

Seb

Jun 17, 2019

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Hi, Also, I can't seem to find the results of last year's survey - https://dlang.typeform.com/report/H1GTak/PY9NhHkcBFG0t6ig - says the report is private. I was going through the rust 2018 survey [0], and it had some really interesting stuff in there. Maybe we can use a lot of the questions from there as well if there's going to be one? Cheers, - Ali [0]: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2018/11/27/Rust-survey-2018.html

On Monday, 17 June 2019 at 19:27:14 UTC, aliak wrote: > Hi, > > Also, I can't seem to find the results of last year's survey - https://dlang.typeform.com/report/H1GTak/PY9NhHkcBFG0t6ig - says the report is private. > > I was going through the rust 2018 survey [0], and it had some really interesting stuff in there. Maybe we can use a lot of the questions from there as well if there's going to be one? > > Cheers, > - Ali > > [0]: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2018/11/27/Rust-survey-2018.html No, because no one bothered to look at the results or listen to the condensed analysis. The results from last year are here: https://github.com/wilzbach/state-of-d-2018

On Monday, 17 June 2019 at 19:50:33 UTC, Seb wrote: > On Monday, 17 June 2019 at 19:27:14 UTC, aliak wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Also, I can't seem to find the results of last year's survey - https://dlang.typeform.com/report/H1GTak/PY9NhHkcBFG0t6ig - says the report is private. >> >> I was going through the rust 2018 survey [0], and it had some really interesting stuff in there. Maybe we can use a lot of the questions from there as well if there's going to be one? >> >> Cheers, >> - Ali >> >> [0]: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2018/11/27/Rust-survey-2018.html > > No, because no one bothered to look at the results or listen to the condensed analysis. Aw :( What do you mean no one? As in core-devs no one or no one no one? Do people think giving it another try would be a wasted effort? > > The results from last year are here: > > https://github.com/wilzbach/state-of-d-2018 Thanks!

On Monday, 17 June 2019 at 19:50:33 UTC, Seb wrote: > On Monday, 17 June 2019 at 19:27:14 UTC, aliak wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Also, I can't seem to find the results of last year's survey - https://dlang.typeform.com/report/H1GTak/PY9NhHkcBFG0t6ig - says the report is private. >> >> I was going through the rust 2018 survey [0], and it had some really interesting stuff in there. Maybe we can use a lot of the questions from there as well if there's going to be one? >> >> Cheers, >> - Ali >> >> [0]: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2018/11/27/Rust-survey-2018.html > > No, because no one bothered to look at the results or listen to the condensed analysis. > > The results from last year are here: > > https://github.com/wilzbach/state-of-d-2018 Of the top 5 missed features none have been implemented. Named arguments does have a DIP that is being processed. I think someone is working on a tuples DIP as well, but hasn't submitted it yet. To note, at least as far as I am aware, both these DIPs are being worked on by individuals on their own free time. 1 tuples 143 / 50% 2 named arguments 131 / 46% 3 string interpolation 87 / 31% 4 in-place struct initialization 81 / 28% 5 multiple alias this 80 / 28%

On Monday, 17 June 2019 at 20:43:15 UTC, aliak wrote: > On Monday, 17 June 2019 at 19:50:33 UTC, Seb wrote: >> On Monday, 17 June 2019 at 19:27:14 UTC, aliak wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Also, I can't seem to find the results of last year's survey - https://dlang.typeform.com/report/H1GTak/PY9NhHkcBFG0t6ig - says the report is private. >>> >>> I was going through the rust 2018 survey [0], and it had some really interesting stuff in there. Maybe we can use a lot of the questions from there as well if there's going to be one? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> - Ali >>> >>> [0]: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2018/11/27/Rust-survey-2018.html >> >> No, because no one bothered to look at the results or listen to the condensed analysis. > > Aw :( > > What do you mean no one? As in core-devs no one or no one no one? No one as in not anyone. Also as a side note, while core devs have merge rights, they don't have any big influence on fixing the points mentioned in the survey (see e.g. https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/9844#issuecomment-496746875 or https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/7988) for an inspiration). > Do people think giving it another try would be a wasted effort? I don't think there is any big question to which the opinion or needs of the D community isn't known. What's lacking is a coordinated effort to fix them.