Hello!
In the late 80th I bought the Zortech Compiler and used it a long time to
compile X32 Dos Extender programs. Later I bought Symantec 6.0 and used it the
same way. Now some days ago I bought Digital Mars, also giving my tribute to
this wonderful compilers in buying the newest version. I still compile projects
which dont use the windows operation system. My selfwritten libraries have
enough features to stand alone without windows (only the problem of printing
without printer drivers will probably never be solved).
For debugging I use the Flashtec FlashView Debugger. For assembler modules I use
MASM.
Now I found that the compiler scppn.exe cannot be run under DOS. It  can only be
started in a WIN98 DOS Box. But my Debugger fv.exe cannot be run in a DOS Box,
it needs normal DOS Mode to execute, the same is with MASM. So debugging after
compiling is nearly impossible. What I need are executables, Compiler
(scppx.exe) and Linker (link386.exe) etc, which can be run in DOS Mode. Or can
you tell me, is there a debugger and assembler for X32 available which runs in a
Windows DOS Box. Can You give me advice how I can work with DM compiling and
debugging my X32 projects.


Thank you very much
Bernhard Emese

"Bernhard Emese" <Bernhard_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bm0h01$270$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Hello!
> In the late 80th I bought the Zortech Compiler and used it a long time to
> compile X32 Dos Extender programs. Later I bought Symantec 6.0 and used it
the
> same way. Now some days ago I bought Digital Mars, also giving my tribute
to
> this wonderful compilers in buying the newest version. I still compile
projects
> which dont use the windows operation system. My selfwritten libraries have enough features to stand alone without windows (only the problem of
printing
> without printer drivers will probably never be solved).
> For debugging I use the Flashtec FlashView Debugger. For assembler modules
I use
> MASM.
> Now I found that the compiler scppn.exe cannot be run under DOS. It  can
only be
> started in a WIN98 DOS Box. But my Debugger fv.exe cannot be run in a DOS
Box,
> it needs normal DOS Mode to execute, the same is with MASM. So debugging
after
> compiling is nearly impossible. What I need are executables, Compiler
> (scppx.exe) and Linker (link386.exe) etc, which can be run in DOS Mode. Or
can
> you tell me, is there a debugger and assembler for X32 available which
runs in a
> Windows DOS Box. Can You give me advice how I can work with DM compiling
and
> debugging my X32 projects.
>
>
> Thank you very much
> Bernhard Emese

The easiest way to do it is to debug the program as a win32 application. Then, port it to X32, that will minimize the debugging. The best way to proceed with that is to compile/link on one machine, copy the exe to a floppy, and read it on your DOS machine to debug it. It's tedious, but workable.

Walter schrieb...
> 
> The easiest way to do it is to debug the program as a win32 application. Then, port it to X32, that will minimize the debugging. The best way to proceed with that is to compile/link on one machine, copy the exe to a floppy, and read it on your DOS machine to debug it. It's tedious, but workable.

Or have a DOS machine connected via network. Compile on the Win machine,
debug on the DOS machine.
I don't use the debugger but test my X32 app this way.

- Heinz

Heinz Saathoff <hsaat@bre.ipnet.de> wrote in message news:MPG.19ef34831c6b727c9896d4@news.digitalmars.com...
> Walter schrieb...
> >
> > The easiest way to do it is to debug the program as a win32 application. Then, port it to X32, that will minimize the debugging. The best way to proceed with that is to compile/link on one machine, copy the exe to a floppy, and read it on your DOS machine to debug it. It's tedious, but workable.
>
> Or have a DOS machine connected via network. Compile on the Win machine,
> debug on the DOS machine.
> I don't use the debugger but test my X32 app this way.
>
> - Heinz

And good old Laplink III for DOS still do wonders; or even Kermit.

>The easiest way to do it is to debug the program as a win32 application. Then, port it to X32, that will minimize the debugging. The best way to proceed with that is to compile/link on one machine, copy the exe to a floppy, and read it on your DOS machine to debug it. It's tedious, but workable.
>
>

Unfortunately most of my applications are complex graphic applications which cannot be run as win32 applications. As I see now, the best for me is to use the scppx.exe compiler from symantec 6.0, which obviously was the last compiler, which allowed DOS32 compiling and debugging together with Flashteks debugger.

Thanks for your replies
Bernhard Emese

"Bernhard Emese" <Bernhard_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bm6dht$fmg$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> >The easiest way to do it is to debug the program as a win32 application. Then, port it to X32, that will minimize the debugging. The best way to proceed with that is to compile/link on one machine, copy the exe to a floppy, and read it on your DOS machine to debug it. It's tedious, but workable.
> >
> >
>
> Unfortunately most of my applications are complex graphic applications
which
> cannot be run as win32 applications. As I see now, the best for me is to
use the
> scppx.exe compiler from symantec 6.0, which obviously was the last
compiler,
> which allowed DOS32 compiling and debugging together with Flashteks
debugger.

Why not use the scppx from symantec 7.5?

>Why not use the scppx from symantec 7.5?

Its some years ago, when I tried to upgrade from Symantec 6.0 to 7.5 and I remember that I had difficulties in creating X32 Applications and debugging, but I dont remember exactly what difficulties. Sorry. Is 7.5 much better than 6.0 concerning X32 applications?


Bernhard Emese

"Bernhard Emese" <Bernhard_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bmeh07$2836$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> >Why not use the scppx from symantec 7.5?
>
> Its some years ago, when I tried to upgrade from Symantec 6.0 to 7.5 and I remember that I had difficulties in creating X32 Applications and
debugging, but
> I dont remember exactly what difficulties. Sorry. Is 7.5 much better than
6.0
> concerning X32 applications?

I think it's about the same.

In article <bmf4kn$85$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
>
>
>"Bernhard Emese" <Bernhard_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bmeh07$2836$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> >Why not use the scppx from symantec 7.5?
>>
>> Its some years ago, when I tried to upgrade from Symantec 6.0 to 7.5 and I remember that I had difficulties in creating X32 Applications and
>debugging, but
>> I dont remember exactly what difficulties. Sorry. Is 7.5 much better than
>6.0
>> concerning X32 applications?
>
>I think it's about the same.
>
>
Thank you for Your fast replies (and for Your fast compiler).

Bernhard Emese