It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages, as the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars news server.

Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this means it is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might have a goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also has a goofup....

How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send incorrect info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??

- Rajiv

FWIW this behaviour is the same for the Netscape 7.0 newsreader. . .


Rajiv Bhagwat escreveu:
> It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages, as
> the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars news
> server.
> 
> Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the
> newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this means it
> is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might have a
> goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This
> indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also has a
> goofup....
> 
> How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send incorrect
> info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??
> 
> - Rajiv
> 
> 



-- 
Cesar Rabak
GNU/Linux User 52247.
Get counted: http://counter.li.org/

It's worth a lot. Jan has been telling us that this is purely an artefact of Outlook or Outlook Express.

I'd very much welcome a resolution to this, since it is very tiresome to go through the process that Rajiv describes.

btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't be good for Digital Mars commercially ...

:(

Matthew


> FWIW this behaviour is the same for the Netscape 7.0 newsreader. . .
>
>
> Rajiv Bhagwat escreveu:
> > It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages,
as
> > the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars
news
> > server.
> >
> > Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this
means it
> > is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might
have a
> > goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also has
a
> > goofup....
> >
> > How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send
incorrect
> > info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??
> >
> > - Rajiv
>
> -- 
> Cesar Rabak
> GNU/Linux User 52247.
> Get counted: http://counter.li.org/

We are well aware of the wonderful support Jan has been providing for these
newsgroups, but I guess he is simply unaware of the large number of people
affected and annoyed by this.
- Rajiv


"Matthew Wilson" <matthew.hat@stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message news:bqeh21$2foc$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> It's worth a lot. Jan has been telling us that this is purely an artefact
of
> Outlook or Outlook Express.
>
> I'd very much welcome a resolution to this, since it is very tiresome to
go
> through the process that Rajiv describes.
>
> btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't
be
> good for Digital Mars commercially ...
>
> :(
>
> Matthew
>
>
> > FWIW this behaviour is the same for the Netscape 7.0 newsreader. . .
> >
> >
> > Rajiv Bhagwat escreveu:
> > > It is becoming annoying to click and check each NG for newer messages,
> as
> > > the OE continues to display wrong 'unread messages' on the DigitalMars
> news
> > > server.
> > >
> > > Consider c++.stl.hp group ... this has no messages inside, still the newsreader shows '16'. It reappears even after 'catching up' - this
> means it
> > > is sent by the server. Even after considering the fact that OE might
> have a
> > > goofup in its logic, why should the server send this number '16'? This indicates that the message pruning and reindexing on the server also
has
> a
> > > goofup....
> > >
> > > How about checking the server and ensuring that it does not send
> incorrect
> > > info to OE? In the worst case restore the unpruned messages??
> > >
> > > - Rajiv
> >
> > --
> > Cesar Rabak
> > GNU/Linux User 52247.
> > Get counted: http://counter.li.org/
>
>

Matthew Wilson wrote:
> It's worth a lot. Jan has been telling us that this is purely an artefact of
> Outlook or Outlook Express.

Well, that is the only news reader I have seen the problems with.
I have been searching on how to reset the articles counts in INN, but have not find a conclusive answer.

> I'd very much welcome a resolution to this, since it is very tiresome to go
> through the process that Rajiv describes.

Write M$

> btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since
> this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't be
> good for Digital Mars commercially ...

I have not noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings. In the past there always have been days without any postings.

Jan

"Matthew Wilson" <matthew.hat@stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message news:bqeh21$2foc$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> btw, has anyone else noticed a dramatic drop in newsgroup postings since this problem's been present? I wonder what the stats are on it? It can't
be
> good for Digital Mars commercially ...

I just saw 50 new messages appear in the D group in the space of 3 hours. I'm never going to catch up!