"Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:c3jhse$ff3$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>
> "Matthew" <matthew@stlsoft.org> wrote in message news:c3jf4j$bhp$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > > I also find that when I am reading the hard version,
> > > my wife isnt nagging me for "sitting at the computer for hours" :o))
>
> Invite the guys over for beer, potato chips and an afternoon watching football instead :-)
>
>
> > You can't take a laptop in the bath, or standing up on a bus/train/tram/ferry, or while driving.
>
> I hope you're not reading a paperback while driving, we need you here in
one
> piece <g>.

I was practising my "exercise for the reader" techniques to see whether anyone was awake. <G>

The coppers are worried about people
sending SMS's while driving, and you
are reading while driving?

LOL

Phill.


"Matthew" <matthew@stlsoft.org> wrote in message news:c3jf4j$bhp$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>
> "Phill" <phill@pacific.net.au> wrote in message news:c3j361$2q8p$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> >
> > "Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:c3irca$2dak$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > >
> > > "Andrew Edwards" <remove_ridimz@remove_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:opr46oe9bfs6zaqn@news.digitalmars.com...
> > > > A great many people are uncomfortable with reading from a computer
> > screen.
> > > > Take a look on at Bruce Eckel's books. They are freely available in
> html
> > > > format, but as soon as they are published, millions run out to pick
up
> a
> > > > printed copy. I won't say never, but I don't see electronic books replacing the traditional ink&paper medium any time soon...
Certainly
> > not
> > > > in my generation (at the end of which Walter will be long gone and
> > making
> > > > money will be someone else's problem).
> > >
> > > Both have their place. The soft version is great for lookups,
searches,
> > and
> > > quick checking. The hard version is great for settling down to study
it.
> > >
> >
> > I also find that when I am reading the hard version,
> > my wife isnt nagging me for "sitting at the computer for hours" :o))
>
> You can't take a laptop in the bath, or standing up on a bus/train/tram/ferry, or while driving.
>
> I just hate e-books. :(
>
>
>
>

Phill wrote:

> Sorry, I wasnt clear, I meant that if he makes
> an E Book that he would not be able to make
> much money out of the E Book.
> 
> Phill.

...and he said that if the book was also available in print in a dual-form sort of arrangement (like the C++ ebook on relisoft.com) then he could. For example, I bought the relisoft.com C++ ebook immediately when it came into print simply because I don't like reading 500 pages on a computer screen. My screen is dead sexy (fyi ;-), but it just doesn't beat paper when it comes to reading.

Cheers,
Sigbjørn Lund Olsen

John Reimer wrote:

>>A great many people are uncomfortable with reading from a computer screen.
>>Take a look on at Bruce Eckel's books. They are freely available in html
>>format, but as soon as they are published, millions run out to pick up a
>>printed copy. I won't say never, but I don't see electronic books
>>replacing the traditional ink&paper medium any time soon... Certainly not
>>in my generation (at the end of which Walter will be long gone and making
>>money will be someone else's problem).
>>
>>Andrew
> 
> 
> This is really true.  I actually like collecting free computer science
> ebooks, but for some reason, never like reading them off the screen.  In
> the past, I've ended up printing the good ones out. There's nothing quite
> like being able to grab a book, flop out on the couch and use it as a face
> cover for a good nap (just kidding).  Nonetheless, I do find ebooks very
> useful for quick-lookup references. Where it may eventually get better for
> ebooks is on pda's.  I like that idea except for the fact that pda screens
> are still pretty small, and the pda battery life does not compare well to
> paper books :-).  Paper books likely will never go out of style.

If there was a device about A4 size, with an LCD touchpad screen, reasonably thing yet reasonably sturdy, then I'd possibly go for reading Ebooks in electronic form. But untill then, it's paper for any lengthy document.

Cheers,
Sigbjørn Lund Olsen

Andrew Edwards a écrit :
> A great many people are uncomfortable with reading from a computer screen. Take a look on at Bruce Eckel's books. They are freely available in html format, but as soon as they are published, millions run out to pick up a printed copy. I won't say never, but I don't see electronic books replacing the traditional ink&paper medium any time soon... Certainly not in my generation (at the end of which Walter will be long gone and making money will be someone else's problem).
> 
> Andrew

Remember this one ?

news://news.digitalmars.com:119/am636v$ii3$1@digitaldaemon.com

[QUOTE]
-------- Original Message --------
Objet: off topic
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 02:14:55 +0000 (UTC)
De: bw
Société: [http://www.pathlink.com]
Forums: c++

Introducing the new Bio-Optic Organized Knowledge device,
trade-named: BOOK.

BOOK is a revolutionary breakthrough in technology: no wires, no
electric circuits, no batteries, nothing to be connected or
switched on.  It's so easy to use, even a child can operate it.
Compact and portable, it can be used anywhere-even sitting in an
armchair by the fire -- yet it is powerful enough to hold as much
information as a CD-ROM disc.

Here's how it works: BOOK is constructed of sequentially numbered
sheets of paper (recyclable), each capable of holding thousands of
bits of information.  The pages are locked together with a
custom-fit device called a binder which keeps the sheets in their
correct sequence.

Opaque Paper Technology (OPT) allows manufacturers to use both
sides of the sheet, doubling the information density and cutting
costs. Each sheet is scanned optically, registering information
directly into your brain.  A flick of the finger takes you to the
next sheet. BOOK may be taken up at any time and used merely by
opening it.

BOOK never crashes or requires re-booting.  The "browse" feature
allows you to move instantly to any sheet, and move forward or
backward as you wish. Many come with an "index" feature, which
pin-points the exact location of any selected information for
instant retrieval.

An optional "BOOKmark" accessory allows you to open BOOK to the
exact place you left it in a previous session - even if the BOOK
has been closed.  BOOKmarks fit universal design standards; thus a
single BOOKmark can be used in BOOKs by various manufacturers.
Conversely, numerous BOOKmarkers can be used in a single BOOK if
the user wants to store numerous views at once.  The number is
limited only by the number of pages in the BOOK.

You can also make personal notes next to BOOK text entries with an
operational programming tool, the Portable Erasable Nib Cryptic
Intercommunication Language Stylus (PENCILS).

Portable, durable, and affordable, BOOK is being hailed as a
precursor of a new entertainment wave.  Also, BOOK's appeal seems
so certain that thousands of content creators have committed to the
platform and investors are reportedly flocking.  Look for a flood
of new titles soon.
[/QUOTE]

how this post landed in the D forum ? I've sended it in C++.annouce ???
anyway please ignore


roland a écrit :
> Andrew Edwards a écrit :
> 
>> A great many people are uncomfortable with reading from a computer screen. Take a look on at Bruce Eckel's books. They are freely available in html format, but as soon as they are published, millions run out to pick up a printed copy. I won't say never, but I don't see electronic books replacing the traditional ink&paper medium any time soon... Certainly not in my generation (at the end of which Walter will be long gone and making money will be someone else's problem).
>>
>> Andrew
> 
> 
> Remember this one ?
> 
> news://news.digitalmars.com:119/am636v$ii3$1@digitaldaemon.com
> 
> [QUOTE]
> -------- Original Message --------
> Objet: off topic
> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 02:14:55 +0000 (UTC)
> De: bw
> Société: [http://www.pathlink.com]
> Forums: c++
> 
> Introducing the new Bio-Optic Organized Knowledge device,
> trade-named: BOOK.
> 
> BOOK is a revolutionary breakthrough in technology: no wires, no
> electric circuits, no batteries, nothing to be connected or
> switched on.  It's so easy to use, even a child can operate it.
> Compact and portable, it can be used anywhere-even sitting in an
> armchair by the fire -- yet it is powerful enough to hold as much
> information as a CD-ROM disc.
> 
> Here's how it works: BOOK is constructed of sequentially numbered
> sheets of paper (recyclable), each capable of holding thousands of
> bits of information.  The pages are locked together with a
> custom-fit device called a binder which keeps the sheets in their
> correct sequence.
> 
> Opaque Paper Technology (OPT) allows manufacturers to use both
> sides of the sheet, doubling the information density and cutting
> costs. Each sheet is scanned optically, registering information
> directly into your brain.  A flick of the finger takes you to the
> next sheet. BOOK may be taken up at any time and used merely by
> opening it.
> 
> BOOK never crashes or requires re-booting.  The "browse" feature
> allows you to move instantly to any sheet, and move forward or
> backward as you wish. Many come with an "index" feature, which
> pin-points the exact location of any selected information for
> instant retrieval.
> 
> An optional "BOOKmark" accessory allows you to open BOOK to the
> exact place you left it in a previous session - even if the BOOK
> has been closed.  BOOKmarks fit universal design standards; thus a
> single BOOKmark can be used in BOOKs by various manufacturers.
> Conversely, numerous BOOKmarkers can be used in a single BOOK if
> the user wants to store numerous views at once.  The number is
> limited only by the number of pages in the BOOK.
> 
> You can also make personal notes next to BOOK text entries with an
> operational programming tool, the Portable Erasable Nib Cryptic
> Intercommunication Language Stylus (PENCILS).
> 
> Portable, durable, and affordable, BOOK is being hailed as a
> precursor of a new entertainment wave.  Also, BOOK's appeal seems
> so certain that thousands of content creators have committed to the
> platform and investors are reportedly flocking.  Look for a flood
> of new titles soon.
> [/QUOTE]
>