Hi Guys,
Kate for KDE has now been realeased with inbuilt D syntax highlighting.  For more info see http://kate.kde.org/.

Cheers
Simon

In article <c8d150$mfs$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Simon J Mackenzie says...
>
>Hi Guys,
>Kate for KDE has now been realeased with inbuilt D syntax highlighting.
>  For more info see http://kate.kde.org/.
>
>Cheers
>Simon

Ok, I have to ask this:

Why would you use kate when leds is available?

leds is very stable now (read disclamer on license)

what is missing on leds that is present on kate?
as I remember kate doesn't have the code layout or intelissense available
that alone should be a reason to move to leds,
(even if some constructs confuse leds sometimes).

http://leds.sourceforge.net

just grab the linux binary, unzip it (,rename it) and go.

Ant

Ant wrote:

> In article <c8d150$mfs$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Simon J Mackenzie says...
>>
>>Hi Guys,
>>Kate for KDE has now been realeased with inbuilt D syntax highlighting.
>>  For more info see http://kate.kde.org/.
>>
>>Cheers
>>Simon
> 
> Ok, I have to ask this:
> 
> Why would you use kate when leds is available?

Because kate is integral to KDE, leds isn't (if you use KDE as your *nix
desktop.)

In article <c8dmtr$1t60$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Scott Michel says...
>
>Ant wrote:
>
>> In article <c8d150$mfs$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Simon J Mackenzie says...
>>>
>>>Hi Guys,
>>>Kate for KDE has now been realeased with inbuilt D syntax highlighting.
>>>  For more info see http://kate.kde.org/.
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>Simon
>> 
>> Ok, I have to ask this:
>> 
>> Why would you use kate when leds is available?
>
>Because kate is integral to KDE, leds isn't (if you use KDE as your *nix
>desktop.)
>

Do you find to troubleing to see buttons drawn a little bit differently?
(probably you can download a theme for GTK that emulates your KDE theme)
Is KDE so monopolistically blind that doesn't allow users to fire an
external application as if it was a KDE application?
(couldn't spell seamingsly)

Or don't you use a GTK application for some ideoligical reason?
(all distros I tryed had both KDE and Gnome - I don't use any, just GTK)

leds is a much (,much, much) better tool for coding on D then kate,
it's your lost if you impose yourself that artificial limitation.
if you have GTK on you system there is no reason
(that I find valid) not to use leds.
I don't see a reason not to install GTK (unless you don't own the system).

well, is my lost too as I need users with reports and suggestions...

Ant

I have never tried leds. Anyhow: I use many different programming languages and other text file formats. Kate certainly is not perfect for any individual one, but it is far more comfortable to stick with one editor that does everything reasonably well than having to adjust to different editors all the time.


Ant wrote:

> In article <c8d150$mfs$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Simon J Mackenzie says...
>>
>>Hi Guys,
>>Kate for KDE has now been realeased with inbuilt D syntax highlighting.
>>  For more info see http://kate.kde.org/.
>>
>>Cheers
>>Simon
> 
> Ok, I have to ask this:
> 
> Why would you use kate when leds is available?
> 
> leds is very stable now (read disclamer on license)
> 
> what is missing on leds that is present on kate?
> as I remember kate doesn't have the code layout or intelissense available
> that alone should be a reason to move to leds,
> (even if some constructs confuse leds sometimes).
> 
> http://leds.sourceforge.net
> 
> just grab the linux binary, unzip it (,rename it) and go.
> 
> Ant

That is also my reason for sticking with D and Java development in Eclipse.  One tool for both languages.  It also does C/C++ and I hear PHP is closing in on a plug-in.  It's a really nice platform for IDE creation and use.

BA

Norbert Nemec wrote:
> I have never tried leds. Anyhow: I use many different programming languages
> and other text file formats. Kate certainly is not perfect for any
> individual one, but it is far more comfortable to stick with one editor
> that does everything reasonably well than having to adjust to different
> editors all the time.
> 
> 
> Ant wrote:
> 
> 
>>In article <c8d150$mfs$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Simon J Mackenzie says...
>>
>>>Hi Guys,
>>>Kate for KDE has now been realeased with inbuilt D syntax highlighting.
>>> For more info see http://kate.kde.org/.
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>Simon
>>
>>Ok, I have to ask this:
>>
>>Why would you use kate when leds is available?
>>
>>leds is very stable now (read disclamer on license)
>>
>>what is missing on leds that is present on kate?
>>as I remember kate doesn't have the code layout or intelissense available
>>that alone should be a reason to move to leds,
>>(even if some constructs confuse leds sometimes).
>>
>>http://leds.sourceforge.net
>>
>>just grab the linux binary, unzip it (,rename it) and go.
>>
>>Ant
> 
> 

Ant,

It seems to me if you provide keyboard mappings in leds for Kate and Eclipse? and any other editor you find people are using for D development you will get more converts.

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In article <opr77upky75a2sq9@digitalmars.com>, Regan Heath says...
>
>Ant,
>
>It seems to me if you provide keyboard mappings in leds for Kate and Eclipse? and any other editor you find people are using for D development you will get more converts.
>

There is support for key mapping in leds
(and it's easy to add others, I just don't use anything else)

http://leds.sourceforge.net/prefEditorKeys.html

these are (were?) similar to the eclipse default (I use eclipse 9 to 5)

Maybe I can have a set of preset definitions
(Once I improve the project's multiple targets UI I should be able use the
same code for multiple key schemas)

Ant
PS I didn't remember the "Next Element" and "Previous Element"! :}
I wonder if those really work?...

On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:36:16 +0000 (UTC), Ant <Ant_member@pathlink.com> wrote:
> In article <opr77upky75a2sq9@digitalmars.com>, Regan Heath says...
>>
>> Ant,
>>
>> It seems to me if you provide keyboard mappings in leds for Kate and
>> Eclipse? and any other editor you find people are using for D development
>> you will get more converts.
>
> There is support for key mapping in leds
> (and it's easy to add others, I just don't use anything else)
>
> http://leds.sourceforge.net/prefEditorKeys.html
> these are (were?) similar to the eclipse default (I use eclipse 9 to 5)
>
> Maybe I can have a set of preset definitions

That is what I was trying to suggest :)

> (Once I improve the project's multiple targets UI I should be able use the same code for multiple key schemas)
>
> Ant
> PS I didn't remember the "Next Element" and "Previous Element"! :}
> I wonder if those really work?...

I don't know.. to tell the truth I don't actually use leds, I use DIDE on windows.

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On Wed, 19 May 2004 11:30:41 +1200, Regan Heath wrote:

> On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:36:16 +0000 (UTC), Ant <Ant_member@pathlink.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://leds.sourceforge.net/prefEditorKeys.html
>>
>> Ant
>> PS I didn't remember the "Next Element" and "Previous Element"! :}
>> I wonder if those really work?...
> 
> I don't know.. to tell the truth I don't actually use leds, I use DIDE on windows.

They don't, there isn't even code to process those...

(there probably millions and millions of people pressing that key and nothing is hapening... it's all my fault)

> I use DIDE on windows.

if you switch to leds we would double the number of users.

Ant