World needs a safe language statically typed language without GC but simpler than rust. D's biggest win against rust is that it has much better interop than rust with C++. If we make D a no GC,safe language it can easily beat rust. GC can be optional. No company wants to rip and replace existing c++ code. Why would some want to use D since go with GC is already there which is backed by a big corp. Their marketing made GC good. However good D is compared to Go, its hard to suceed with GC. This is just my opinion. well wisher.

On Friday, 9 April 2021 at 21:37:51 UTC, Independent wrote:

Just don't use it if you hate it so much.
Compilers provided you with tools to track implicit GC runs(dmd -vgc, ldc -nogc flags), use RAII or whatever for memory allocations, make your own containers that handles its memory or find existing one on dub. Done.

No need to waste time and money inventing what's already there.

On Friday, 9 April 2021 at 21:37:51 UTC, Independent wrote:

If we got seamless reuse of existing c++ or translation to D, that would be the big thing imo.

Actually, if the porting process could be improved/highly automated that would probably be the biggest win since then you'd have D all the way = nirvana.

On Friday, 9 April 2021 at 21:37:51 UTC, Independent wrote:

Here is C# beating C++ on gRPC parsing, because .NET team started to be more serious about their optimisation efforts,

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/aspnet/grpc-performance-improvements-in-net-5/

Not only that, they started to port runtime code from C++ into C#, an endeavour that they keep on ramping up on .NET 6.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/announcing-net-6-preview-3/

Unity keeps their effort to migrate core engine code from C++ into HPC#, a C# subset which is basically like using D with @nogc, while leaving the remaining part of the engine to regular C#, just like regular D.

What D needs is fixing bugs, finishing some language feature and be the best at its thing.

Doing a D vs Rust vs C++ feature check list, won't go anywhere, mainstream languages get picked due to ecosystems and OS SDKs, not due to whatever language feature makes to the frontage of hacker news.

On Saturday, 10 April 2021 at 07:07:19 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:

Oh I've seen you on github gentool discussion, actually you can try to convert C++ code using gentool by adding .cpp to sources list, it is not restricted to headers and might work for standalone libraries that doesn't rely on STL too much.

On Saturday, 10 April 2021 at 09:20:27 UTC, evilrat wrote:

Yeah, I haven't really tried it yet. Will do in the coming week 🍀

On Friday, 9 April 2021 at 21:37:51 UTC, Independent wrote:

If you want absolute safety, just use Rust. Let D be D.

On Saturday, 10 April 2021 at 15:50:51 UTC, Dylan Graham wrote:

Why should D be unsafe?

Sorry I dont hate, instead I have lot of respect for the community. I was just sharing my thoughts. I wish D gets more success in the future. What I felt is that D needs a plan, roadmoap, goal and shout it outside to the world and the community can help in small pieces. It needs a small makeover.

On Saturday, 10 April 2021 at 08:06:15 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:

Why do I agree with you this much? 🤔