All:

I'm slowly hacking away at an Eclipse plug-in that aims to edit and compile using the DMC CDROM tools. Mostly, this is an effort to convince other people to use DMC/C++ locally, but it may also be useful to other people in real life. So far, I've managed to get it working to compile a simple console mode program using smake. I only intend to support Win32 console, dlls and executables (if someone else wants to hack in the other output targets, they're welcome to do so later.) What remains is making subdirectory compiles work, getting various compiler flag combinations configured, and compiler error filtering.

The way the CDT people have set up the compilation environment is to specify a tool, e.g., MinGW, and two configurations, Debug and Release. I can mimic this pattern, but it seems a bit wacky. It seems to me that it would be more worthwhile to setup one tool, the DMC/C++ compiler, and various compiler flag configurations, Win32 Console Debug, Win32 Console Release, DLL Debug, DLL release, etc. This way, one could easily retarget the compiler's output w/o having to set up a separate project.

The basic tradeoff is one tool with multiple flag configurations vice multiple tools (all of which are the same, but are effectively different project types). One tool/multiple configurations is inherently dangerous because it allows a developer to switch from Win32 console to Win32 DLL.

My question is: What would be useful if you were using it?

Scott Michel wrote:
> All:
> 
> I'm slowly hacking away at an Eclipse plug-in that aims to edit and compile using the DMC CDROM tools.

Hmmm... given the stunning silence, I'm guessing no one out there would value using Eclipse to build their C/C++ code with DMC...

Scott Michel wrote:
> Scott Michel wrote:
> 
>> All:
>>
>> I'm slowly hacking away at an Eclipse plug-in that aims to edit and compile using the DMC CDROM tools.
> 
> 
> Hmmm... given the stunning silence, I'm guessing no one out there would value using Eclipse to build their C/C++ code with DMC...

No not yet. Just a few weeks ago I installed the latest version of Eclipse with CDT but I need some more "playtime" with it...
It hasn't convinced me yet.

On the otherside I see more and more tool vendors for embedded software development suppling/using eclipse with plugins as IDE.

I will try it but just to occupied right now.

Arjan

Arjan Knepper wrote:
> No not yet. Just a few weeks ago I installed the latest version of Eclipse with CDT but I need some more "playtime" with it...
> It hasn't convinced me yet.
> 
> On the otherside I see more and more tool vendors for embedded software development suppling/using eclipse with plugins as IDE.

I've not been able to get MinGW to work correctly on my machine (after a new video card and SIMMs, I wont be surprised if I really need to reinstall everything on the machine), so that's one reason why I've headed in the Eclipse DMC plugin direction.

But you'd think, with all of the pissing and moaning about the IDDE, there'd be a bit more feedback. After all, Eclipse is a pretty decent (if feature-overfilled) IDE to work with, from what I've seen so far.

Scott Michel wrote:
> Arjan Knepper wrote:
> 
>> No not yet. Just a few weeks ago I installed the latest version of Eclipse with CDT but I need some more "playtime" with it...
>> It hasn't convinced me yet.
>>
>> On the otherside I see more and more tool vendors for embedded software development suppling/using eclipse with plugins as IDE.
> 
> 
> I've not been able to get MinGW to work correctly on my machine (after a new video card and SIMMs, I wont be surprised if I really need to reinstall everything on the machine), so that's one reason why I've headed in the Eclipse DMC plugin direction.
> 
> But you'd think, with all of the pissing and moaning about the IDDE, there'd be a bit more feedback. After all, Eclipse is a pretty decent (if feature-overfilled) IDE to work with, from what I've seen so far.

Having an alternative definitely could be nice...
Currently I have rebuild the complete current IDDE, but have not had the time to complete the process and actually run (debug) it successfully...

-- 
ManiaC++
Jan Knepper

But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
www.mozilla.org

I have been spending some time with the Eclipse plugin that Scott Michel started, updating it to 3.0 and adding a static LIB build option.  I think I will have something decent in a few weeks.  Are there others who would value this?  Maybe we can start sharing some tasks, like adding a debugger plugin?

Andy C

In article <41EDA34B.2030204@smartsoft.us>, Jan Knepper says...
>
>Scott Michel wrote:
>> Arjan Knepper wrote:
>> 
>>> No not yet. Just a few weeks ago I installed the latest version of
>>> Eclipse with CDT but I need some more "playtime" with it...
>>> It hasn't convinced me yet.
>>>
>>> On the otherside I see more and more tool vendors for embedded software development suppling/using eclipse with plugins as IDE.
>> 
>> 
>> I've not been able to get MinGW to work correctly on my machine (after a new video card and SIMMs, I wont be surprised if I really need to reinstall everything on the machine), so that's one reason why I've headed in the Eclipse DMC plugin direction.
>> 
>> But you'd think, with all of the pissing and moaning about the IDDE, there'd be a bit more feedback. After all, Eclipse is a pretty decent (if feature-overfilled) IDE to work with, from what I've seen so far.
>
>Having an alternative definitely could be nice...
>Currently I have rebuild the complete current IDDE, but have not had the
>time to complete the process and actually run (debug) it successfully...
>
>-- 
>ManiaC++
>Jan Knepper
>
>But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla... www.mozilla.org

Andy C wrote:
> I have been spending some time with the Eclipse plugin that Scott Michel
> started, updating it to 3.0 and adding a static LIB build option.  I think I
> will have something decent in a few weeks.  Are there others who would value
> this?  Maybe we can start sharing some tasks, like adding a debugger plugin?
> 
> Andy C

I'm really short on time right now, but post (me) a link to the cvs / svn were the src tree is and I wil compile and test and eventually supply patches/fixes etc.

Arjan

> 
> In article <41EDA34B.2030204@smartsoft.us>, Jan Knepper says...
> 
>>Scott Michel wrote:
>>
>>>Arjan Knepper wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>No not yet. Just a few weeks ago I installed the latest version of Eclipse with CDT but I need some more "playtime" with it...
>>>>It hasn't convinced me yet.
>>>>
>>>>On the otherside I see more and more tool vendors for embedded software development suppling/using eclipse with plugins as IDE.
>>>
>>>
>>>I've not been able to get MinGW to work correctly on my machine (after a new video card and SIMMs, I wont be surprised if I really need to reinstall everything on the machine), so that's one reason why I've headed in the Eclipse DMC plugin direction.
>>>
>>>But you'd think, with all of the pissing and moaning about the IDDE, there'd be a bit more feedback. After all, Eclipse is a pretty decent (if feature-overfilled) IDE to work with, from what I've seen so far.
>>
>>Having an alternative definitely could be nice...
>>Currently I have rebuild the complete current IDDE, but have not had the time to complete the process and actually run (debug) it successfully...
>>
>>-- 
>>ManiaC++
>>Jan Knepper
>>
>>But as for me and my household, we shall use Mozilla...
>>www.mozilla.org
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