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Dsource forum question
Jun 27, 2006
BCS
Jun 27, 2006
BCS
Jun 27, 2006
kris
Jun 27, 2006
BCS
Jun 27, 2006
Ameer Armaly
June 27, 2006
Is there any way to access the Dsource forum with Thunderbird or another such client? I couldn't find any indication that phpBB can do this by its self, but a search for phpBB+nntp turned up indications it is possible:

http://pessoal.org/papercut/
"Papercut is a NNTP server ... The phpBB support should now be considered stable."
June 27, 2006
"BCS" <BCS@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:e7rnem$2a12$2@digitaldaemon.com...
> Is there any way to access the Dsource forum with Thunderbird or another such client? I couldn't find any indication that phpBB can do this by its self, but a search for phpBB+nntp turned up indications it is possible:

I think the question is: why would you want to?  Internet forums came about as an alternative to (ancient, poorly-featured) newsgroups..


June 27, 2006
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> "BCS" <BCS@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:e7rnem$2a12$2@digitaldaemon.com...
> 
>>Is there any way to access the Dsource forum with Thunderbird or another such client? I couldn't find any indication that phpBB can do this by its self, but a search for phpBB+nntp turned up indications it is possible:
> 
> 
> I think the question is: why would you want to?  Internet forums came about as an alternative to (ancient, poorly-featured) newsgroups.. 
> 
> 

Because I hate crawling through web pages. About 90% of the data on the wire is otherwise unneeded formatting, I can't re-brows stuff without re-downloading it. Thunderbird on the other hand stores most of the data locally, downloads little or no extraneous formatting, and even can pop up a notification when new stuff shows up.

*I* think the question is: why would anyone /want/ to use the Internet forum?  It is now (IMO) the anachronistic, poorly-featured paradigm.

If the Dsource forum was accessible as a newsgroup I would read it with great interest. As the only access seems to be by way of an internet forum, I probably won't even bother.
June 27, 2006
BCS wrote:
> Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> 
>> "BCS" <BCS@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:e7rnem$2a12$2@digitaldaemon.com...
>>
>>> Is there any way to access the Dsource forum with Thunderbird or another such client? I couldn't find any indication that phpBB can do this by its self, but a search for phpBB+nntp turned up indications it is possible:
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the question is: why would you want to?  Internet forums came about as an alternative to (ancient, poorly-featured) newsgroups..
>>
> 
> Because I hate crawling through web pages. About 90% of the data on the wire is otherwise unneeded formatting, I can't re-brows stuff without re-downloading it. Thunderbird on the other hand stores most of the data locally, downloads little or no extraneous formatting, and even can pop up a notification when new stuff shows up.
> 
> *I* think the question is: why would anyone /want/ to use the Internet forum?  It is now (IMO) the anachronistic, poorly-featured paradigm.
> 
> If the Dsource forum was accessible as a newsgroup I would read it with great interest. As the only access seems to be by way of an internet forum, I probably won't even bother.

How about requesting an RSS feed?
June 27, 2006
kris wrote:
> BCS wrote:
> 

>>> "BCS" <BCS@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:e7rnem$2a12$2@digitaldaemon.com...
>>>
>>>> Is there any way to access the Dsource forum with Thunderbird or another such client? I couldn't find any indication that phpBB can do this by its self, but a search for phpBB+nntp turned up indications it is possible:

>> If the Dsource forum was accessible as a newsgroup I would read it with great interest. As the only access seems to be by way of an internet forum, I probably won't even bother.
> 
> 
> How about requesting an RSS feed?

Good Idea! Um... To whom should I direct such a request?
June 27, 2006
kris wrote:
> BCS wrote:
>> Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
>>
>>> "BCS" <BCS@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:e7rnem$2a12$2@digitaldaemon.com...
>>>
>>>> Is there any way to access the Dsource forum with Thunderbird or another such client? I couldn't find any indication that phpBB can do this by its self, but a search for phpBB+nntp turned up indications it is possible:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the question is: why would you want to?  Internet forums came about as an alternative to (ancient, poorly-featured) newsgroups..
>>>
>>
>> Because I hate crawling through web pages. About 90% of the data on the wire is otherwise unneeded formatting, I can't re-brows stuff without re-downloading it. Thunderbird on the other hand stores most of the data locally, downloads little or no extraneous formatting, and even can pop up a notification when new stuff shows up.
>>
>> *I* think the question is: why would anyone /want/ to use the Internet forum?  It is now (IMO) the anachronistic, poorly-featured paradigm.
>>
>> If the Dsource forum was accessible as a newsgroup I would read it with great interest. As the only access seems to be by way of an internet forum, I probably won't even bother.
> 
> How about requesting an RSS feed?

For version / revision announcements yes, but how would it work with interactive threaded discussion? BTW, Trac even supports RSS to some extend.

I think providing support for NG clients would decrease the amount of server bandwidth usage and make the site much faster. Yes, it's now faster than it used to be, but still could be made a bit faster. It's pretty soon slow again, when D gets more popularity.

Besides most web browser on Linux suck like a Hoover. :( Only Opera and links are "usable" on my XP 2400+ box. It also seems to be the case that most of the active D users are able to use the ultra modern newsgroup technology even w/o the web interface. ;)
June 27, 2006
"BCS" <BCS@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:e7rsbd$2a12$3@digitaldaemon.com...
> Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
>> "BCS" <BCS@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:e7rnem$2a12$2@digitaldaemon.com...
>>
>>>Is there any way to access the Dsource forum with Thunderbird or another such client? I couldn't find any indication that phpBB can do this by its self, but a search for phpBB+nntp turned up indications it is possible:
>>
>>
>> I think the question is: why would you want to?  Internet forums came about as an alternative to (ancient, poorly-featured) newsgroups..
>
> Because I hate crawling through web pages. About 90% of the data on the wire is otherwise unneeded formatting, I can't re-brows stuff without re-downloading it. Thunderbird on the other hand stores most of the data locally, downloads little or no extraneous formatting, and even can pop up a notification when new stuff shows up.
>
I agree here.  I always prefer clients as opposed to web-based protocols, but especially in the area of forums versus newsgroups or mail lists.
> *I* think the question is: why would anyone /want/ to use the Internet forum?  It is now (IMO) the anachronistic, poorly-featured paradigm.
>
I personally don't see the point of web forums.  Besides all the extra content that is often there, you are usually restricted in more ways than just by using a standardized protocol such as but not limited to nntp.  IMHO layering message exchange on top of a website and offering no flat standard that opens up the door for other means of interaction is a bad idea.
> If the Dsource forum was accessible as a newsgroup I would read it with great interest. As the only access seems to be by way of an internet forum, I probably won't even bother.
Same here.