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The DIID series (Do It In D)
Jan 23, 2022
Guillaume Piolat
Jan 24, 2022
zjh
Jan 24, 2022
Imperatorn
Jan 24, 2022
Walter Bright
Jan 25, 2022
Elronnd
Jan 25, 2022
Walter Bright
Jan 25, 2022
Tejas
Jan 25, 2022
Guillaume Piolat
Jan 25, 2022
Walter Bright
Jan 25, 2022
matheus
Jan 26, 2022
JN
Jan 26, 2022
Guillaume Piolat
Jan 26, 2022
Adam D Ruppe
Jan 26, 2022
Guillaume Piolat
Jan 27, 2022
WebFreak001
Jan 28, 2022
WebFreak001
January 23, 2022

How bad really is the D ecosystem?

I've started the DIID series, a good old snippet collection for you to copy/paste.
A series of article to highlight how shockingly easy some things are in D today.

https://p0nce.github.io/d-idioms/#DIID-#1---Parse-XML-file
https://p0nce.github.io/d-idioms/#DIID-#2---Play-music
https://p0nce.github.io/d-idioms/#DIID-#3---Convert-Markdown-to-HTML
https://p0nce.github.io/d-idioms/#DIID-#4---Draw-an-accelerated-triangle
https://p0nce.github.io/d-idioms/#DIID-#5---Draw-a-triangle-in-a-PDF
https://p0nce.github.io/d-idioms/#DIID-#6---Parse-JSON-file

All code in one place at: https://github.com/p0nce/DIID

Preferred topics:

  • promote ecosystem-ey ways to do a common (but not completely trivial) task,
  • with a business-friendly licence
  • provide full source code / snippet
  • DUB and maintained libraries only
  • ideally works with "dub run"
  • works at least on Linux and Windows
  • no talk

If you have ideas that enter in that mindset, you are welcome to contribute articles or article ideas, as I fear the ecosystem has lots of undiscovered power for the people to wield.
I'd be curious to hear about how a few lines of package X solves problem Y for you.

January 24, 2022

On Sunday, 23 January 2022 at 14:23:45 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote:

>

How bad really is the D ecosystem?

I've started the DIID series, a good old snippet collection for you to copy/paste.

Very Good!

January 24, 2022

On Sunday, 23 January 2022 at 14:23:45 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote:

>

How bad really is the D ecosystem?

I've started the DIID series, a good old snippet collection for you to copy/paste.
A series of article to highlight how shockingly easy some things are in D today.

[...]

YESSS!!

January 24, 2022
This is a nice initiative, Thanks!

But may I offer a suggestion:

The phrase "How bad really is the D ecosystem?" only asks a question, but people tend to interpret such sentences as "D's ecosystem is really bad". What works better is:

"How good really is the D ecosystem?"
January 25, 2022
On Monday, 24 January 2022 at 23:33:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> The phrase "How bad really is the D ecosystem?" only asks a question, but people tend to interpret such sentences as "D's ecosystem is really bad". What works better is:
>
> "How good really is the D ecosystem?"

Your suggested phrasing sounds overly trite to me.  I would maybe go for 'Is the D ecosystem really that bad?'
January 24, 2022
On 1/24/2022 4:34 PM, Elronnd wrote:
> On Monday, 24 January 2022 at 23:33:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>> The phrase "How bad really is the D ecosystem?" only asks a question, but people tend to interpret such sentences as "D's ecosystem is really bad". What works better is:
>>
>> "How good really is the D ecosystem?"
> 
> Your suggested phrasing sounds overly trite to me.  I would maybe go for 'Is the D ecosystem really that bad?'

Again, never write "Is the D ecosystem really that bad?" unless one wants to give the impression that the D ecosystem is bad. Because all the dear reader actually sees is:

    D ecosystem bad


January 25, 2022

On Tuesday, 25 January 2022 at 01:15:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

>

On 1/24/2022 4:34 PM, Elronnd wrote:

>

On Monday, 24 January 2022 at 23:33:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

>

The phrase "How bad really is the D ecosystem?" only asks a question, but people tend to interpret such sentences as "D's ecosystem is really bad". What works better is:

"How good really is the D ecosystem?"

Your suggested phrasing sounds overly trite to me.  I would maybe go for 'Is the D ecosystem really that bad?'

Again, never write "Is the D ecosystem really that bad?" unless one wants to give the impression that the D ecosystem is bad. Because all the dear reader actually sees is:

D ecosystem bad

I agree, it's far easier for people to focus on the negatives than the positives, using any word that has a negative connotation will likely deter the average newcomer from continuing their journey.

Walter's version can be used, or if one wants to sound neutral:

>

Check out what the D ecosystem has to offer

Can be used instead

January 25, 2022
On Tuesday, 25 January 2022 at 01:15:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 1/24/2022 4:34 PM, Elronnd wrote:
>> On Monday, 24 January 2022 at 23:33:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>>> The phrase "How bad really is the D ecosystem?" only asks a question, but people tend to interpret such sentences as "D's ecosystem is really bad". What works better is:
>>>
>>> "How good really is the D ecosystem?"
>> 
>> Your suggested phrasing sounds overly trite to me.  I would maybe go for 'Is the D ecosystem really that bad?'
>
> Again, never write "Is the D ecosystem really that bad?" unless one wants to give the impression that the D ecosystem is bad. Because all the dear reader actually sees is:
>
>     D ecosystem bad

I'll consider fixing this.
I always read "How good really is X?" as "this is bad"
and "How bad really is X?" as "this is good"
probably because for the french the best appreciation you can get is "not bad!"
January 25, 2022
On 1/25/2022 12:44 AM, Guillaume Piolat wrote:
> I'll consider fixing this.
> I always read "How good really is X?" as "this is bad"
> and "How bad really is X?" as "this is good"
> probably because for the french the best appreciation you can get is "not bad!"

Thanks for considering it.
January 25, 2022
On Tuesday, 25 January 2022 at 08:44:34 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote:
> I'll consider fixing this.
> I always read "How good really is X?" as "this is bad"
> and "How bad really is X?" as "this is good"
> probably because for the french the best appreciation you can get is "not bad!"

Brazilian here and it's the same for me. Like for example, you can browse and see things like: "Is this cheap guitar brand really bad?"

And then you watch the review and this good guitar player surprises everyone with a good sound from that cheap guitar.

Usually titles like:

Is "something" really bad? - Shows just the opposite.

Is "something" really good? - Probably will show how bad that thing is.

At least for me and for what I've been seeing online.

Finally about your OT, this a good initiative and nice to see these implementations in D.

Matheus.
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