Hi,

In Tango I want to use Random.next(uint i) to generate a random number between(0,i) but the compiler told me the next(...) function is deprecated.So what is the equivalent function?
Thanks,
Sam

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Sam Hu <samhu.samhu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In Tango I want to use Random.next(uint i) to generate a random number between(0,i) but the compiler told me the next(...) function is deprecated.So what is the equivalent function?
> Thanks,
> Sam
>

import tango.math.random.Kiss;

Kiss.shared.toInt(i)

Dumb name, but it's pretty much the same thing :)

Thanks Jarrett.

It works now.But I am wondering why does such changes,any special reason?

Thanks again.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Sam Hu <samhu.samhu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Jarrett.
>
> It works now.But I am wondering why does such changes,any special reason?
>
> Thanks again.
>
>

Dunno.  Maybe they're planning on having other kinds of RNGs in tango.math.random.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Jarrett Billingsley <jarrett.billingsley@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Sam Hu <samhu.samhu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Jarrett.
>>
>> It works now.But I am wondering why does such changes,any special reason?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>
> Dunno.  Maybe they're planning on having other kinds of RNGs in tango.math.random.
>

I was wondering about that Kiss module too.  I really hope it's not Kiss as in "keep it simple stupid".  If so I think I'm going to barf. Please tell me there's some RNG algorithm known as Kiss.  Googling didn't turn it up, but maybe my google-fu is just weak.

--bb

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:50:00 +0900, Bill Baxter wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Jarrett Billingsley <jarrett.billingsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Sam Hu <samhu.samhu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Jarrett.
>>>
>>> It works now.But I am wondering why does such changes,any special reason?
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Dunno.  Maybe they're planning on having other kinds of RNGs in tango.math.random.
>>
>>
> I was wondering about that Kiss module too.  I really hope it's not Kiss as in "keep it simple stupid".  If so I think I'm going to barf. Please tell me there's some RNG algorithm known as Kiss.  Googling didn't turn it up, but maybe my google-fu is just weak.
> 
> --bb

It's the name of a RNG by Marsaglia.
287 	+ a simple RNG

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Bill Baxter <wbaxter@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Jarrett Billingsley <jarrett.billingsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Sam Hu <samhu.samhu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Jarrett.
>>>
>>> It works now.But I am wondering why does such changes,any special reason?
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Dunno.  Maybe they're planning on having other kinds of RNGs in tango.math.random.
>>
>
> I was wondering about that Kiss module too.  I really hope it's not Kiss as in "keep it simple stupid".  If so I think I'm going to barf. Please tell me there's some RNG algorithm known as Kiss.  Googling didn't turn it up, but maybe my google-fu is just weak.
>
> --bb
>

Get your vomit bag ready.  Yes, Marsaglia came up with it and named it, and yes, he named it after "Keep it simple stupid".  :P

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning@web.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:50:00 +0900, Bill Baxter wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Jarrett Billingsley <jarrett.billingsley@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Sam Hu <samhu.samhu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Thanks Jarrett.
>>>>
>>>> It works now.But I am wondering why does such changes,any special reason?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Dunno.  Maybe they're planning on having other kinds of RNGs in tango.math.random.
>>>
>>>
>> I was wondering about that Kiss module too.  I really hope it's not Kiss as in "keep it simple stupid".  If so I think I'm going to barf. Please tell me there's some RNG algorithm known as Kiss.  Googling didn't turn it up, but maybe my google-fu is just weak.
>>
>> --bb
>
> It's the name of a RNG by Marsaglia.
> 287     + a simple RNG
>

Whew!  I was afraid Tango had gone all cutesy on us for a while there.
Like out with tango.group, in with Tango "Kiss" modules.
Seriously.  So glad to hear it's just the name of a RNG.  Sorry to
find out my Google-fu is so weak, though.  :-(

--bb

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Jarrett Billingsley <jarrett.billingsley@gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> I was wondering about that Kiss module too.  I really hope it's not Kiss as in "keep it simple stupid".  If so I think I'm going to barf. Please tell me there's some RNG algorithm known as Kiss.  Googling didn't turn it up, but maybe my google-fu is just weak.
>>
>> --bb
>>
>
> Get your vomit bag ready.  Yes, Marsaglia came up with it and named it, and yes, he named it after "Keep it simple stupid".  :P

I figured that was probably the case.  But for some reason that
doesn't bother me.
I guess I don't really expect mathematicians to have any aesthetic sense.  :-)
I was just afraid Tango was going to start having "Kiss" modules pop
up in every package.

--bb