D 1.076 and 2.061 release (page 3)

On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 17:53:58 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: > On 1/2/2013 4:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: >> On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote: >> >>> 2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package >>> script). >> >> What isn't working? Is there something I can do to help? >> > > The various packages are all built on Ubuntu. The OS X one failed because it couldn't find ruby, and ruby does not work on Ubuntu (at least my version of Ubuntu - there is no ruby package for it). > Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby Also, what's the dependency on ruby for?

On 1/2/2013 9:59 AM, Iain Buclaw wrote: > On Wednesday, 2 January 2013 at 17:53:58 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: >> On 1/2/2013 4:12 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: >>> On 2013-01-02 00:46, Walter Bright wrote: >>> >>>> 2. the OS X package hasn't been built yet (problems with the package >>>> script). >>> >>> What isn't working? Is there something I can do to help? >>> >> >> The various packages are all built on Ubuntu. The OS X one failed because it >> couldn't find ruby, and ruby does not work on Ubuntu (at least my version of >> Ubuntu - there is no ruby package for it). >> > > > Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. > Also, what's the dependency on ruby for? The OS X install package builder is written in ruby.

On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 09:53 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: […] > The various packages are all built on Ubuntu. The OS X one failed because it couldn't find ruby, and ruby does not work on Ubuntu (at least my version of Ubuntu - there is no ruby package for it). There has been a Ruby package on Ubuntu from the beginning, because Debian has had a Ruby package from the beginning. I'm afraid if your Ubuntu doesn't have ruby then the system administrator simply needs to install it. As evidence for much of the claim made above I present http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ruby&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all Evidence is only partial as only information about maintained versions is present. > Looks like my mistake is I should have run it on OS X. I think this is true as well ;-) -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder

On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:07 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: […] > Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. Any and all apt-related commands are likely to fail for that version of Ubuntu, it is no longer supported. Definitely need to stick with LTS version of Ubuntu or keep up to date, should be on 12.10 by now. Also need to consider formally supporting Mint now that Ubuntu is no longer the Linux distribution of choice in the Debian-based camp. > > Also, what's the dependency on ruby for? > > The OS X install package builder is written in ruby. Ruby, Perl and Python should all be considered as required infrastructure in this day and age. It should Just Work™. -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder

Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: >> >> Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby > > Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. $ sudo apt-get install ruby -- Jordi Sayol

On 1/2/2013 10:37 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote: > Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: >>> >>> Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby >> >> Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. > > $ sudo apt-get install ruby That's what I did try, and yes, it fails too.

On 1/2/2013 10:17 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:07 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: > […] >> Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. > > Any and all apt-related commands are likely to fail for that version of > Ubuntu, it is no longer supported. Definitely need to stick with LTS > version of Ubuntu or keep up to date, should be on 12.10 by now. I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that the installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one. P.S. The Mac is the only machine I've ever been able to upgrade the operating system on that worked without trashing everything and forcing a reinstall from scratch.

On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:47 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: > On 1/2/2013 10:37 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote: > > Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: > >>> > >>> Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby > >> > >> Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. > > > > $ sudo apt-get install ruby > > That's what I did try, and yes, it fails too. To be expected in the circumstances since 10.10 is no longer supported. -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder

January 02, 2013

Re: D 1.076 and 2.061 release

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On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 10:51 -0800, Walter Bright wrote: […]
> I've been avoiding upgrading Ubuntu, because the last time I did that the installer trashed everything. Lost a day on that one.

Just because it happened once doesn't mean it will always happen.

Until I abandoned all use of Ubuntu, I had never had an upgrade crash that didn't correct itself on appropriate rerun. You are the only person I know that had a total trashing due to installer fail.

Reinstalling from scratch does not take a whole day. 2 hours maybe.

> P.S. The Mac is the only machine I've ever been able to upgrade the operating system on that worked without trashing everything and forcing a reinstall from scratch.

I have the opposite experience, Apple hardware seems incapable of upgrading operating systems.  Their policy seems to be "you want a new operating system, then buy a new piece of hardware from the store."

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Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder      t: +44 20 7585 2200   voip: sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Road    m: +44 7770 465 077   xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk  skype: russel_winder

Al 02/01/13 19:47, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: > On 1/2/2013 10:37 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote: >> Al 02/01/13 19:07, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit: >>>> >>>> Really? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ruby >>> >>> Yeah, really. sudo apt-get ruby fails on Ubuntu 10.10. >> >> $ sudo apt-get install ruby > > That's what I did try, and yes, it fails too. > I don't know why. In a Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS, the command: $ sudo apt-get install ruby installs these three packages: ruby ruby1.8 libruby1.8 Otherwise is that ruby version is lower that required. Best regards, -- Jordi Sayol

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