On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 15:38:48 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

Now we are talking!
I have asteroids game that is actually written in D using Unity.

https://forum.dlang.org/post/lwxodemvzgyxkmanpptg@forum.dlang.org

On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 15:38:48 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

I'm working on a 3D game engine

yeah minesweeper can have a 5 second GC pause, users won't notice

On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 17:34:41 UTC, russhy wrote:

If you want to be precise, this is a matter of implementation of GC. There are some games for which current GC implementations result in unacceptable performance issues. Many will do just fine. There's also no reason to pretend manual memory management, reference counting, or garbage collection is a silver bullet. Allocation/freeing of memory always results in a performance hit no matter what name you apply. As stated in this blog post:

I'm not arguing that the GC will work for all games because it won't. You give the impression of having a fundamentalist position though that "real games" (not Minesweeper) cannot have a GC and that GC is obviously going to be slow (uncontrollable 5 second pauses). That's not a helpful starting point.

On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 17:34:41 UTC, russhy wrote:

Why bother making your engine if you don't have a team and project for it?
There is already stuff like godot-d, it works but still somewhat cumbersome to use. Still should be a good choice for most non shooter games.
The only bad thing is that the editor itself has UX of a potato (just like pretty much any open source product) and it is said that 3d is barely optimized so we have to wait for Godot 4 release.

https://code.dlang.org/packages/godot-d

On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 15:29:22 UTC, russhy wrote:

They use Java, JavaScript and Unity, do you know what they have in common with D?

On Monday, 26 April 2021 at 15:30:48 UTC, russhy wrote:

Except you forgot to read that is about full .NET not HPC#.

On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 06:09:25 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:

Yeah, they all use the GC and they they work hard to avoid it like the plague

And yeah, unity's engine is written in C# and make full use of the GC, sure, they use C++ for scripting only

And at least with Unreal, since it is using C++, you are not forced to stick with the GC all the time

With unity, they had to come up with a special language to workaround the GC/JIT issues, and if you stick to regular C#, you are forced to stick with the GC no matter what

So yes i want D to be as pragmatic as C++

You guys want D to be as closed minded as C#, we all know where that leads

Oh and guess why android smart watches sucks compared to apple watch (perf/battery life)?, yes i know you know why

On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 12:01:33 UTC, russhy wrote:

D is a GC'ed language. Period. You're tilting at windmills.

On Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 12:01:33 UTC, russhy wrote:

D is already very pragmatic imo. What is it you want to do in D that you can't, but can in C++?

How is C# close minded? It's a pretty well designed language.

This has nothing to do with gc vs nogc