https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
Seems like we didn't make it this year :(

Is there any feedback from Google when they don't accept an organisation? Do you think that maybe they don't perceive D as a viable option or just the projects could have been defined better?

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:20:57 UTC, Jakub Łabaj wrote:
> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
> Seems like we didn't make it this year :(
>
> Is there any feedback from Google when they don't accept an organisation? Do you think that maybe they don't perceive D as a viable option or just the projects could have been defined better?

Does D need GSoc to attract contibutors?

If so, then Google has achieved exactly what it wants to achieve.

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:20:57 UTC, Jakub Łabaj wrote:
> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
> Seems like we didn't make it this year :(
>
> Is there any feedback from Google when they don't accept an organisation?

Zero feedback.

> Do you think that maybe they don't perceive D as a viable option or just the projects could have been defined better?

Well, Google traditionally has a bias for projects or tools that they internally use (e.g. gRPC or Python).
According to them they also try to prefer projects which have never been a GSoC organization and if you browse the list there are quite a few "no-names" in there.
In the end its a very subjective decision and imho the application was a lot stronger than in 2016.

Anyhow, I'm really sorry that we didn't get accepted this year. Sometimes one just has bad luck :/

To give the bad news positives ones too: I'm currently investigating to extend the Research Scholarships [1] the D Language Foundation offers to students of the UPB to all students.
Nothing official yet, but there could be a DLang Winter of Code if everything works out ;-)

[1] https://dlang.org/foundation/upb-scholarship.html

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:51:44 UTC, Seb wrote:
>
> To give the bad news positives ones too: I'm currently investigating to extend the Research Scholarships [1] the D Language Foundation offers to students of the UPB to all students.
> Nothing official yet, but there could be a DLang Winter of Code if everything works out ;-)
>
> [1] https://dlang.org/foundation/upb-scholarship.html

First, great if the D Foundation can take control of this itself, and not depend on GSoc.

Second, I don't get it. Are you saying D Foundation currently only provides such to students of UPB?

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:59:16 UTC, psychoticRabbit wrote:
> Second, I don't get it. Are you saying D Foundation currently only provides such to students of UPB?

https://dlang.org/blog/2016/12/05/the-d-language-foundations-scholarship-program/

You gotta start somewhere ;-)

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 02:12:10 UTC, Seb wrote:
> On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:59:16 UTC, psychoticRabbit wrote:
>> Second, I don't get it. Are you saying D Foundation currently only provides such to students of UPB?
>
> https://dlang.org/blog/2016/12/05/the-d-language-foundations-scholarship-program/
>
> You gotta start somewhere ;-)

ok.. but I've never heard of UPB. Where is Romania anyway? Is that one of those little islands in the pacific?

In any case, I think it would be great if the foundation setup a process whereby everyday people can contribute funds to projects. Those projects need to be approved and costed. Funds upto those 'per project costs' get accepted, then contributions are no longer accepted for that project - (otherwise contributions will exceed the cost of the project).

The projects once approved, could be published for people to see, and then people decide if they want to contribute. Then the commuinity of contributors essentially get to decide which projects are worthwhile - i.e those that get funded by contributors.

Essentially, crowd sourcing, and stop replying on big corporations to decide what is worthwhile and what is not.

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 02:38:28 UTC, psychoticRabbit wrote:

>
> In any case, I think it would be great if the foundation setup a process whereby everyday people can contribute funds to projects.

Stay tuned.

On 02/12/2018 09:49 PM, Mike Parker wrote:
> On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 02:38:28 UTC, psychoticRabbit wrote:
> 
>>
>> In any case, I think it would be great if the foundation setup a process whereby everyday people can contribute funds to projects.
> 
> Stay tuned.

Oh? I am anxiously not touching that dial...

On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 02:38:28 UTC, psychoticRabbit wrote:
> On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 02:12:10 UTC, Seb wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 13 February 2018 at 01:59:16 UTC, psychoticRabbit wrote:
>>> Second, I don't get it. Are you saying D Foundation currently only provides such to students of UPB?
>>
>> https://dlang.org/blog/2016/12/05/the-d-language-foundations-scholarship-program/
>>
>> You gotta start somewhere ;-)
>
> ok.. but I've never heard of UPB. Where is Romania anyway? Is that one of those little islands in the pacific?
>
> In any case, I think it would be great if the foundation setup a process whereby everyday people can contribute funds to projects. Those projects need to be approved and costed. Funds upto those 'per project costs' get accepted, then contributions are no longer accepted for that project - (otherwise contributions will exceed the cost of the project).
>
> The projects once approved, could be published for people to see, and then people decide if they want to contribute. Then the commuinity of contributors essentially get to decide which projects are worthwhile - i.e those that get funded by contributors.
>
> Essentially, crowd sourcing, and stop replying on big corporations to decide what is worthwhile and what is not.

Romania is in Eastern Europe.

On 02/12/2018 08:20 PM, Jakub Łabaj wrote:
> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
> Seems like we didn't make it this year :(
> 
> Is there any feedback from Google when they don't accept an organisation? Do you think that maybe they don't perceive D as a viable option or just the projects could have been defined better?

Google does not provide feedback to rejected organizations. Far as I can imagine approval depends on a number of imponderables such as the person who does the review etc.

GSoC 2018 was not a considerable part of our plans so we are not affected negatively.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Seb who worked on the application. It was stronger than in past years (including those when we've been accepted).


Andrei