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[Announce] DUI for dmd 0.94
Jul 01, 2004
Ant
Jul 01, 2004
Qbert
Jul 02, 2004
Ant
Jul 02, 2004
J C Calvarese
Jul 03, 2004
Trejkaz Xaoza
Jul 02, 2004
Ant
Jul 02, 2004
Andy Friesen
Jul 05, 2004
Ant
Jul 02, 2004
Bruno A. Costa
July 01, 2004
DUI is available for DMD 0.94.

I applied the patch form Thomas Kühne on the current released version of DUI and released it as 00.14_97.

All tests compile and run
(except ShapesGL, TESTGL compiles and runs)

http://sourceforge.net/projects/dui/

(linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)

Ant
July 01, 2004
>(linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)

:S, any chance we can get a win32 binary sometime soon ?

Qbert

In article <pan.2004.07.01.16.10.35.277280@yahoo.ca>, Ant says...
>
>DUI is available for DMD 0.94.
>
>I applied the patch form Thomas Kühne on the current released version of DUI and released it as 00.14_97.
>
>All tests compile and run
>(except ShapesGL, TESTGL compiles and runs)
>
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/dui/
>
>(linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)
>
>Ant


July 01, 2004
"Qbert" <Qbert_member@pathlink.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:cc210t$2mfp$1@digitaldaemon.com
|| (linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)
|
|:S, any chance we can get a win32 binary sometime soon ?
|
| Qbert

I'd rather like, if possible, to have DUI classes in Windows without needing to have GTK+. Like wrappers around the low-level system calls. If possible.

|
| In article <pan.2004.07.01.16.10.35.277280@yahoo.ca>, Ant says...
||
|| DUI is available for DMD 0.94.
||
|| I applied the patch form Thomas Kühne on the current released
|| version of DUI and released it as 00.14_97.
||
|| All tests compile and run
|| (except ShapesGL, TESTGL compiles and runs)
||
|| http://sourceforge.net/projects/dui/
||
|| (linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)
||
|| Ant

-----------------------
Carlos Santander Bernal


July 02, 2004
In article <cc210t$2mfp$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Qbert says...
>
>>(linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)
>
>:S, any chance we can get a win32 binary sometime soon ?
>

You mean just distribution the dui library binary?
I think it can be done.
I'll try it next time I release the windows version.

I only have windows 2000.
Will it be good for other windows OSs?
You still have to have the GTK binaries.
Is there any way of linking the GTK into the DUI lib
(using the digital mars linker)?

Ant
PS
About the linker:
On linux most of the "executeble generation" time is spent
on the linking phase (95% or more)
On windows most of the time is spent on the compilation
(maybe 60 or 70%)
Walter, can't you make a linker for linux? ;)

BTW are there alternative to the gcc linker on linux?


July 02, 2004
In article <cc21eh$2n13$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Carlos Santander B. says...
>
>"Qbert" <Qbert_member@pathlink.com> escribió en el mensaje
>news:cc210t$2mfp$1@digitaldaemon.com
>|| (linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)
>|
>|:S, any chance we can get a win32 binary sometime soon ?
>|
>| Qbert
>
>I'd rather like, if possible, to have DUI classes in Windows without needing to have GTK+. Like wrappers around the low-level system calls. If possible.

You mean reimplement (even if crippled) GTK in D? :)

Ant


July 02, 2004
Very good!!!

Working well in my Linux.

Thanks,

Bruno.

Ant wrote:

> DUI is available for DMD 0.94.
> 
> I applied the patch form Thomas Kühne on the current released version of DUI and released it as 00.14_97.
> 
> All tests compile and run
> (except ShapesGL, TESTGL compiles and runs)
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dui/
> 
> (linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)
> 
> Ant

July 02, 2004
"Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:cc3pq7$2gnj$1@digitaldaemon.com
| In article <cc21eh$2n13$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Carlos Santander B. says...
||
|| "Qbert" <Qbert_member@pathlink.com> escribió en el mensaje
|| news:cc210t$2mfp$1@digitaldaemon.com
|||| (linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)
|||
|||| S, any chance we can get a win32 binary sometime soon ?
|||
||| Qbert
||
|| I'd rather like, if possible, to have DUI classes in Windows without
needing
|| to have GTK+. Like wrappers around the low-level system calls. If
possible.
|
| You mean reimplement (even if crippled) GTK in D? :)
|
| Ant

Not exactly. Right now (for Win) it's DUI <- GTK <- Windows. What I'd like
(ideally) is DUI <- Windows, without anything else needed.

-----------------------
Carlos Santander Bernal


July 02, 2004
Ant wrote:
> In article <cc210t$2mfp$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Qbert says...
> 
>>>(linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)
>>
>>:S, any chance we can get a win32 binary sometime soon ?
> 
> You mean just distribution the dui library binary?
> I think it can be done.
> I'll try it next time I release the windows version.
> 
> I only have windows 2000.
> Will it be good for other windows OSs?
Windows is more or less the pinnacle of compatibility.  The current Windows GTK+ should run on any flavour of windows that was created between 1995 and 2100. :)  (probably versions after that too)
> You still have to have the GTK binaries.
> Is there any way of linking the GTK into the DUI lib
> (using the digital mars linker)?
You'd probably have to build the GTK sources with DMC.
> BTW are there alternative to the gcc linker on linux?
Intel?
July 02, 2004
In article <cc4fev$gmv$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Carlos Santander B. says...
>
>"Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com> escribió en el mensaje
>news:cc3pq7$2gnj$1@digitaldaemon.com
>| In article <cc21eh$2n13$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Carlos Santander B. says...
>||
>|| "Qbert" <Qbert_member@pathlink.com> escribió en el mensaje
>|| news:cc210t$2mfp$1@digitaldaemon.com
>|||| (linux only, I didn't patch the windows version)
>|||
>|||| S, any chance we can get a win32 binary sometime soon ?
>|||
>||| Qbert
>||
>|| I'd rather like, if possible, to have DUI classes in Windows without
>needing
>|| to have GTK+. Like wrappers around the low-level system calls. If
>possible.
>|
>| You mean reimplement (even if crippled) GTK in D? :)
>|
>| Ant
>
>Not exactly. Right now (for Win) it's DUI <- GTK <- Windows. What I'd like
>(ideally) is DUI <- Windows, without anything else needed.
>
>-----------------------
>Carlos Santander Bernal

I think Ant understands what you're asking. (But I don't think you'll like the answer. ;) ) I'm sure Ant knows much more about this than I do, but I'll try to explain.

With DUI, a lot stuff is handled in the GTK+ "realm" that'd have to be re-implemented if GTK+ dependendence were removed (even under Windows). It wouldn't necessarily take as much effort as re-writing GTK+ from scratch, but it'd still be a MAJOR undertaking.

jcc7
July 03, 2004
J C Calvarese wrote:
> 
> I think Ant understands what you're asking. (But I don't think you'll like the answer. ;) ) I'm sure Ant knows much more about this than I do, but I'll try to explain.
> 
> With DUI, a lot stuff is handled in the GTK+ "realm" that'd have to be re-implemented if GTK+ dependendence were removed (even under Windows). It wouldn't necessarily take as much effort as re-writing GTK+ from scratch, but it'd still be a MAJOR undertaking.

I gather the port of SWT will come close to this anyway.  It would be calling the Windows API directly (or at least through a very thin C wrapper to the C++.)  I just hope they don't end up having the same performance issues which plague SWT on Java. :-/

TX


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