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... use of ... is hidden by ...; use alias ... to introduce base class overload set ??
Oct 20, 2019
Robert M. Münch
Oct 21, 2019
John Chapman
Oct 21, 2019
Robert M. Münch
Oct 22, 2019
Robert M. Münch
Oct 22, 2019
Ali Çehreli
Oct 23, 2019
Robert M. Münch
Oct 23, 2019
Ali Çehreli
Oct 24, 2019
Robert M. Münch
Oct 24, 2019
Ali Çehreli
Oct 25, 2019
Robert M. Münch
Oct 25, 2019
Ali Çehreli
Oct 26, 2019
Robert M. Münch
October 20, 2019
I get this error message, which doesn't tell me a lot:

rx_filter_subject.d(38,8): Error: class rx_filter_subject.FilterSubject use of rx.subject.SubjectObject!(message).SubjectObject.subscribe(Observer!(message) observer) is hidden by FilterSubject; use alias subscribe = SubjectObject.subscribe; to introduce base class overload set

I have in file rx_filter_subject:

class myWidget : Observer!message {...}

class FilterSubject : SubjectObject!message {
 Disposable subscribe(myWidget observer){...}
}


I tried to add "alias subscribe = SubjectObject.subscribe;" in different places, but that didn't help. Nor do I have any how that should help...

I understand that my subscribe(myWidget observer) function seems to hide the base class subscribe function. But I don't care about the base class one. So, I want to hide it when a FilterSubject is used.

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October 21, 2019
On Sunday, 20 October 2019 at 21:45:35 UTC, Robert M. Münch wrote:
> class myWidget : Observer!message {...}
>
> class FilterSubject : SubjectObject!message {
>  Disposable subscribe(myWidget observer){...}
> }
>
>
> I tried to add "alias subscribe = SubjectObject.subscribe;" in different places, but that didn't help. Nor do I have any how that should help...

This should work:

class FilterSubject : SubjectObject!message {
  alias subscribe = typeof(super).subscribe;
  Disposable subscribe(myWidget observer){...}
}
October 21, 2019
On 2019-10-21 07:04:33 +0000, John Chapman said:

> This should work:
> 
> class FilterSubject : SubjectObject!message {
>    alias subscribe = typeof(super).subscribe;
>    Disposable subscribe(myWidget observer){...}
> }

This now gives:

rx_filter_subject.d(66,23): Error: rx_filter_subject.FilterSubject.subscribe called with argument types (myWidget) matches both:

/Users/robby/.dub/packages/rx-0.13.0/rx/source/rx/subject.d(72,16):
rx.subject.SubjectObject!(message).SubjectObject.subscribe!(myWidget).subscribe(myWidget observer)

and:

rx_filter_subject.d(47,14): rx_filter_subject.FilterSubject.subscribe(myWidget observer)

So, now there is an ambiguty.

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October 22, 2019
On 2019-10-21 18:02:06 +0000, Robert M. Münch said:

> This now gives:
> 
> rx_filter_subject.d(66,23): Error: rx_filter_subject.FilterSubject.subscribe called with argument types (myWidget) matches both:
> 
> /Users/robby/.dub/packages/rx-0.13.0/rx/source/rx/subject.d(72,16):
> rx.subject.SubjectObject!(message).SubjectObject.subscribe!(myWidget).subscribe(myWidget observer)
> 
> and:
> 
> rx_filter_subject.d(47,14): rx_filter_subject.FilterSubject.subscribe(myWidget observer)
> 
> So, now there is an ambiguty.

I'm really stuck on this which looks like a dead-lock to me. Adding "override" gives:

class myWidget : Observer!message {...}

class FilterSubject : SubjectObject!message {
 override Disposable subscribe(myWidget observer){...}
}

rx_filter_subject.d(47,23): Error: function Disposable rx_filter_subject.FilterSubject.subscribe(myWidget observer) does not override any function, did you mean to override template rx.subject.SubjectObject!(message).SubjectObject.subscribe(T)(T observer)?

rx_filter_subject.d(47,23):        Functions are the only declarations that may be overriden

So, I can't override but when I use an alias I get an ambiguty error... now what?

The only solution I have is to use a different name, but that would change the interface and run against all the OOP ideas. The whole code can be found here: https://pastebin.com/5BTT16Ze


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October 22, 2019
On 10/22/2019 01:23 PM, Robert M. Münch wrote:

> The whole code
> can be found here: https://pastebin.com/5BTT16Ze

That says "private paste" for me. But I think you have a member function template in the base class. Unfortunately, member function template instances are never virtual functions, so you can't override them.

I'm pretty sure there is a way out. Can you try showing minimal code again please.

Thanks,
Ali


October 23, 2019
On 2019-10-22 20:59:41 +0000, Ali ‡ehreli said:

> That says "private paste" for me.

Ups, sorry and thanks for letting me know.


> But I think you have a member function template in the base class.

This the lib I use: https://github.com/lempiji/rx/blob/dev/source/rx/subject.d and which gives the error.

On lines 72ff it has:

   Disposable subscribe(T)(T observer)
   {
       return subscribe(observerObject!E(observer));
   }

   Disposable subscribe(Observer!E observer)
   {


Which looks exactly like what you mention, if I understand it correctly.

> Unfortunately, member function template instances are never virtual functions, so you can't override them.

What I don't understand is:

1. The RX lib has a member function template and than an instance of it using type Oberver!E.

2. I'm creating a new type and want to use the same pattern but now with my type. But it seems that D reduces my own type which leads to the ambigty of which function now to use. Whereas I would expect that D uses the most specific type first.

> I'm pretty sure there is a way out. Can you try showing minimal code again please.

The pastbin is the minimal code example. And yes, I'm sure there is a (simple) way out... for some advanced guys like you. Still learning a lot here...

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October 23, 2019
On 10/23/2019 02:43 AM, Robert M. Münch wrote:

>> Unfortunately, member function template instances are never virtual
>> functions, so you can't override them.
>
> What I don't understand is:
>
> 1. The RX lib has a member function template and than an instance of it
> using type Oberver!E.
>
> 2. I'm creating a new type and want to use the same pattern but now with
> my type. But it seems that D reduces my own type which leads to the
> ambigty of which function now to use. Whereas I would expect that D uses
> the most specific type first.

That is exactly the case (for D, C++, etc.). However, the function must be virtual. Imagine an object is being accessed by it base interface, only the virtual function calls will be dispatched to the most specific type. Non-virtual functions will be called on the base type.

For that reason, even though I've managed to remove your compilation error below, you will not like how it behaves.

> The pastbin is the minimal code example. And yes, I'm sure there is a
> (simple) way out...

Replacing FilterSubject with the following removes the compilation error:

static class FilterSubject : SubjectObject!message {

  SI spitialIndex;

  this(){
    spitialIndex = new SI();
  }

  auto subscribe(T)(T t)
  if (!is (T == myWidget))
  {
    return typeof(super).subscribe(t);
  }

  Disposable subscribe(T)(T observer)
  if (is (T == myWidget))
  {
    spitialIndex.insert(observer.x, observer.y, cast(long)cast(void*)observer);

    return NopDisposable.instance;
  }
}

However...

  auto rx_message = new FilterSubject;

The type of rx_message is FilterSubject above. When one calls .subscribe() on it, only FilterSubject.subscribe templates will be involved. Perhaps that's exactly what you want.

However... :)

Accessing rx_message through a base class interface will call a different set of .subscribe() functions (the ones on the base even for myWidget!):

  SubjectObject!message rx_message = new FilterSubject;

Now rx_message is the base type and only now you get "Hit!" printed.

Again, maybe this is exactly what you want but beware that different sets of functions will be called depending on what interface of the object you are using.

Ali


October 24, 2019
On 2019-10-23 17:22:38 +0000, Ali ‡ehreli said:

> On 10/23/2019 02:43 AM, Robert M. Münch wrote:
> 
>  >> Unfortunately, member function template instances are never virtual
>  >> functions, so you can't override them.
>  >
>  > What I don't understand is:
>  >
>  > 1. The RX lib has a member function template and than an instance of it
>  > using type Oberver!E.
>  >
>  > 2. I'm creating a new type and want to use the same pattern but now with
>  > my type. But it seems that D reduces my own type which leads to the
>  > ambigty of which function now to use. Whereas I would expect that D uses
>  > the most specific type first.
> 
> That is exactly the case (for D, C++, etc.). However, the function must be virtual. Imagine an object is being accessed by it base interface, only the virtual function calls will be dispatched to the most specific type. Non-virtual functions will be called on the base type.

Yes, I know and the problem seems to be what you mentioned before: "But I think you have a member function template in the base class. Unfortunately, member function template instances are never virtual functions, so you can't override them."

Is there a reason why these type of functions are not virtual or can't be made virtual?

> For that reason, even though I've managed to remove your compilation error below, you will not like how it behaves.
> 
>  > The pastbin is the minimal code example. And yes, I'm sure there is a
>  > (simple) way out...
> 
> Replacing FilterSubject with the following removes the compilation error:
> 
> static class FilterSubject : SubjectObject!message {
> 
>    SI spitialIndex;
> 
>    this(){
>      spitialIndex = new SI();
>    }
> 
>    auto subscribe(T)(T t)
>    if (!is (T == myWidget))
>    {
>      return typeof(super).subscribe(t);
>    }
> 
>    Disposable subscribe(T)(T observer)
>    if (is (T == myWidget))
>    {
>      spitialIndex.insert(observer.x, observer.y, cast(long)cast(void*)observer);
> 
>      return NopDisposable.instance;
>    }
> }

Ah, that's pretty neat. I think that is what I need. I have to get used to this template variant handling feature.

> However...
> 
>    auto rx_message = new FilterSubject;
> 
> The type of rx_message is FilterSubject above. When one calls .subscribe() on it, only FilterSubject.subscribe templates will be involved. Perhaps that's exactly what you want.

Yes.

> However... :)
> 
> Accessing rx_message through a base class interface will call a different set of .subscribe() functions (the ones on the base even for myWidget!):
> 
>    SubjectObject!message rx_message = new FilterSubject;
> 
> Now rx_message is the base type and only now you get "Hit!" printed.

Yes, that fits. Because only when thîs specific type is used the specialized implementation should be used.

> Again, maybe this is exactly what you want but beware that different sets of functions will be called depending on what interface of the object you are using.

Yes, I understand and this is a very elegant way to keep the same interface but with different behaviour depending on the type. Very useful.

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October 24, 2019
On 10/24/2019 10:57 AM, Robert M. Münch wrote:

> Unfortunately, member function template instances are never virtual
> functions, so you can't override them."
>
> Is there a reason why these type of functions are not virtual or can't
> be made virtual?

One practical reason is, the number of their instances cannot be known when the interface (or base class) is compiled.

interface I {
  void foo();
  void bar();
}

When the compiler compiles that interface, it generates a vtbl (virtual function pointer table) with 2 entries in it. (As usual, those entries are indexed by 0 and 1.)

class C : I {
  // ...
}

When compiling the above class, the compiler generates a vtbl for C, and populates the entries with addresses of C.foo and C.bar.

  obj.bar();

When compiling the above code, compiler uses the equivalent of the following:

  obj.vtbl[1]();

In the case of member function templates, because the number of their instances are not known, the compiler cannot know how many entries to have in such an interface's vtbl. (Note that the compilation of I and C would ordinarily be separate from the calling code.)

  obj.someTemplate(42);

Which vtbl entry corresponds to the 'int' instance?

  obj.vtbl[???]();

This cannot be known as different compilation units instantiate templates according to their own uses. There is no common place to determine the length and entries of vtbls of I and C.

Ali


October 25, 2019
On 2019-10-24 19:45:42 +0000, Ali ‡ehreli said:

> One practical reason is, the number of their instances cannot be known when the interface (or base class) is compiled.
> ...

Ali, first, thanks a lot for your answers.

If the compiler is a 1-pass one I see the problem, otherwise one could first get a "total overview" and create the necessary vtbl entries after everything is known. Maybe this is not "how a compiler is implemented" but the problem sounds solvable for me.

However, your solution works too. Thanks again.

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