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Jetbrains announce support for rust plugin, show them we want one too!
Aug 04, 2017
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Just today, jetbrains announced their official support for the rust plugin

I'm sure they'll do something for D if we ask them, don't stay silent!! show them you want something

Leave a comment in their blog for a D support!  too!

We can do it!

https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2017/08/04/official-support-for-open-source-rust-plugin-for-intellij-idea-clion-and-other-jetbrains-ides/
August 04, 2017
On Friday, 4 August 2017 at 18:15:47 UTC, SCev wrote:
> Just today, jetbrains announced their official support for the rust plugin
>
> I'm sure they'll do something for D if we ask them, don't stay silent!! show them you want something
>
> Leave a comment in their blog for a D support!  too!
>
> We can do it!
>
> https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2017/08/04/official-support-for-open-source-rust-plugin-for-intellij-idea-clion-and-other-jetbrains-ides/

there is already a pluggin for D,
https://github.com/intellij-dlanguage/intellij-dlanguage

not officially supported by Jetbrains
seems to be under active development


August 04, 2017
On Friday, 4 August 2017 at 18:36:56 UTC, Ali wrote:
> On Friday, 4 August 2017 at 18:15:47 UTC, SCev wrote:
>> Just today, jetbrains announced their official support for the rust plugin
>>
>> I'm sure they'll do something for D if we ask them, don't stay silent!! show them you want something
>>
>> Leave a comment in their blog for a D support!  too!
>>
>> We can do it!
>>
>> https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2017/08/04/official-support-for-open-source-rust-plugin-for-intellij-idea-clion-and-other-jetbrains-ides/
>
> there is already a pluggin for D,
> https://github.com/intellij-dlanguage/intellij-dlanguage
>
> not officially supported by Jetbrains
> seems to be under active development

yes, but would be cool to have official support from jetbrains, they know their ide/plugin API better than anyone else, so it'd speed up / improve dev of the plugin by a lot!

Don't stay silent, post comment on their page :D
August 04, 2017
On Friday, 4 August 2017 at 19:27:13 UTC, SCev wrote:
> yes, but would be cool to have official support from jetbrains, they know their ide/plugin API better than anyone else, so it'd speed up / improve dev of the plugin by a lot!
>
> Don't stay silent, post comment on their page :D

Well, according to the blog entry, the Rust plugin was a side project for an intern

While this is official support, it seems they are not really adding a lot more manpower behind it, it will mostly remain the work for this intern

They dont have plans for a standalone rust ide, like clion for c++

In other words, it really didnt cost them much to support this plugin

And I see very little commercial incentive for them to support D

I think a community support for the Dlang intellij plugin is our best hope
we can start a kickstarter project and donate money to them .. might work

I would donate to them if they also include a refactoring tool
August 04, 2017
On Friday, 4 August 2017 at 19:42:43 UTC, Ali wrote:
> On Friday, 4 August 2017 at 19:27:13 UTC, SCev wrote:
>> [...]
>
> Well, according to the blog entry, the Rust plugin was a side project for an intern
>
> While this is official support, it seems they are not really adding a lot more manpower behind it, it will mostly remain the work for this intern
>
> They dont have plans for a standalone rust ide, like clion for c++
>
> In other words, it really didnt cost them much to support this plugin
>
> And I see very little commercial incentive for them to support D
>
> I think a community support for the Dlang intellij plugin is our best hope
> we can start a kickstarter project and donate money to them .. might work
>
> I would donate to them if they also include a refactoring tool

this is because of the way you think that D doesn't have that missing traction...

people on this forum need to change.. i'm disapointed
August 05, 2017
I would not say so: https://github.com/intellij-dlanguage/intellij-dlanguage/issues/211

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Ali via Digitalmars-d < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 4 August 2017 at 18:15:47 UTC, SCev wrote:
>
>> Just today, jetbrains announced their official support for the rust plugin
>>
>> I'm sure they'll do something for D if we ask them, don't stay silent!! show them you want something
>>
>> Leave a comment in their blog for a D support!  too!
>>
>> We can do it!
>>
>> https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2017/08/04/official-support- for-open-source-rust-plugin-for-intellij-idea-clion-and- other-jetbrains-ides/
>>
>
> there is already a pluggin for D, https://github.com/intellij-dlanguage/intellij-dlanguage
>
> not officially supported by Jetbrains
> seems to be under active development
>
>
>


August 05, 2017
On Fri, 2017-08-04 at 19:42 +0000, Ali via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> 
[…]
> They dont have plans for a standalone rust ide, like clion for c++

Remember CLion is first and foremost a CMake based IDE that happens to have
excellent support for C and C++ files. Also Rust, and a whole load of other
languages for which there is a CMake build capability.

[…]
> I think a community support for the Dlang intellij plugin is our
> best hope
> we can start a kickstarter project and donate money to them ..
> might work
> 
> I would donate to them if they also include a refactoring tool

There is no "they" IntelliJ-DLanguage is a plugin for IntelliJ IDEA being written by the D community, that is "you". Sadly, currently, only a couple of people are putting in a bit of their spare time to keep the project moving.

If more people in the D community had the attitude "I can help with that" rather than "I wish they would so something", D tooling based on mainstream infrastructure would be a lot better than it currently is.

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August 05, 2017
On Sat, 2017-08-05 at 10:19 +0200, Daniel Kozak via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> I would not say so: https://github.com/intellij-dlanguage/intellij-dlanguage/issues/211
> 

Just because Kingsley has moved on doesn't mean the project is dead. In fact far from it. Except that currently is is spare time activity from a couple of people.
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August 05, 2017
On Saturday, 5 August 2017 at 11:26:57 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> If more people in the D community had the attitude "I can help with that" rather than "I wish they would so something", D tooling based on mainstream infrastructure would be a lot better than it currently is.

Don't wait from a new people that they're skilled for it. Use D and make D (including ecosystem) - it's absolutely different, and requires a different level of skills.

I'm an one who needed a good IDE (+debugger) support. But unfortunately I'm not found a good one for D.
I have small skills in D, so my abilities is very limited (translate something to another language, etc). And I'm not sure that I'll be able grow it well without a good IDE, because
then I'd prefer other solid ecosystems for any serious projects.

August 05, 2017
On Sat, 2017-08-05 at 13:16 +0000, Dmitry via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> 
[…]
> I'm an one who needed a good IDE (+debugger) support. But
> unfortunately I'm not found a good one for D.
> I have small skills in D, so my abilities is very limited
> (translate something to another language, etc). And I'm not sure
> that I'll be able grow it well without a good IDE, because
> then I'd prefer other solid ecosystems for any serious projects.

As far as I can tell there are no good D development environments in the way there are C++, Go, Rust ones. I have no idea about Visual D since that involves Visual Studio which I think involves Windows and possibly money – though paying for a good development environment does usually imply better quality, support and maintenance.

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