This link was posted today on hacker news (ycombinator)
https://blog.golang.org/survey2017-results
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16468358

My biggest takes from this are
1) people are looking for python alternatives, probably more so than c alternatives
2) generic programming is important

As I understand the results of this survey, will be use to guide Go's development
this is in my opinion very inclusive and transparent

On Mon, 2018-02-26 at 21:04 +0000, Ali via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> This link was posted today on hacker news (ycombinator) https://blog.golang.org/survey2017-results https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16468358
> 
> My biggest takes from this are
> 1) people are looking for python alternatives, probably more so
> than c alternatives

People choosing to complete a Go-oriented survey are…

> 2) generic programming is important
> 
> As I understand the results of this survey, will be use to guide
> Go's development
> this is in my opinion very inclusive and transparent

I can't imagine Go getting templates anytime soon.

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 09:04:20PM +0000, Ali via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
> 2) generic programming is important
[...]

It's something sorely lacking in Go, so it's not unsurprising it's a big item on the list.


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On Monday, 26 February 2018 at 21:04:20 UTC, Ali wrote:
> This link was posted today on hacker news (ycombinator)
> https://blog.golang.org/survey2017-results
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16468358
>
> My biggest takes from this are
> 1) people are looking for python alternatives, probably more so than c alternatives
> 2) generic programming is important

Or why I learned D.

On Monday, 26 February 2018 at 21:37:40 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 09:04:20PM +0000, Ali via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
>> 2) generic programming is important
> [...]
>
> It's something sorely lacking in Go, so it's not unsurprising it's a big item on the list.
>
>
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It's also something that they've kept out of the language by design. I don't disagree with that decision either. If the selling points are fast compilation and code that is simple to write and read without much knowledge of the language, it's hard to see how generics fit in. Look at D. Templates slow compilation and having a standard library that emphasizes generic code makes it much harder to learn.

On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:01:45 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
> It's also something that they've kept out of the language by design. I don't disagree with that decision either. If the selling points are fast compilation and code that is simple to write and read without much knowledge of the language, it's hard to see how generics fit in. Look at D. Templates slow compilation and having a standard library that emphasizes generic code makes it much harder to learn.

I'm no expert on programming language design, but I think there is a difference between templates and generics. At the basic level they are used for similar things - specializing container types, etc. But templates usually allow much more, so they end up being layers of layers of compile time code, e.g. D and Boost, which while nifty has it's compilation time cost.

On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:30:44 UTC, JN wrote:
> I'm no expert on programming language design, but I think there is a difference between templates and generics. At the basic level they are used for similar things - specializing container types, etc. But templates usually allow much more, so they end up being layers of layers of compile time code, e.g. D and Boost, which while nifty has it's compilation time cost.

Generic programming just means that you leave out the specification for some types in the code for later.

C++-style templates like D has is one solution to generic programming.  When some people write «generics» they probably think of Java and something that is like that...

On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:30:44 UTC, JN wrote:

> I'm no expert on programming language design, but I think there is a difference between templates and generics. At the basic level they are used for similar things - specializing container types, etc. But templates usually allow much more, so they end up being layers of layers of compile time code, e.g. D and Boost, which while nifty has it's compilation time cost.

I agree. But I don't know of any way to add generics without slowing compilation or making the language harder to use, even if it's something other than templates.