September 08, 2022

On 9/8/22 6:40 AM, Mike Parker wrote:

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On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 10:19:00 UTC, matheus. wrote:

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My tip is for the next DConf, people in charge of recording should watch all the previous Conferences and take what went right (The conference at facebook was well done), because this was new to me, usually when the slide is NOT presented on the screen they show it in full for a few seconds or when the presenter is explaining, this way was very weird and the first time I see this.

Are you still talking about the edited version? I tried to time showing the slides when he's actually talking about them, and for the code snippets I highlighted the lines he's referring to. I didn't like the random switching in the livestream (which is what the recorded version is), which is why I decided to edit.

I agree that the Facebook conference was very well done, they had cameras and camera operators everywhere.

But in general, I think a video stream of the screenshare, a stream of the person talking (and only that), a stream of the whole stage, and if possible, video streams of each questioner would be a great raw source to start with.

I've seen other conference streams where the image of the speaker is very narrow, and therefore they can consume most of the screen with the slides. I think that's ideal.

-Steve

September 08, 2022
On 9/8/22 08:02, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

> I've seen other conference streams where the image of the speaker is
> very narrow, and therefore they can consume most of the screen with the
> slides. I think that's ideal.
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> -Steve

I agree that the slides should take more room. The speaker can get more space at the start, at the end, and occasionally as he/she is not talking directly on any slide.

Other than that, I think Mike is overdoing a great work! ;)

Ali

September 08, 2022

On 9/8/22 11:34 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:

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I agree that the slides should take more room. The speaker can get more space at the start, at the end, and occasionally as he/she is not talking directly on any slide.

Other than that, I think Mike is overdoing a great work! ;)

Agreed! None of this takes away from the job that Mike is doing with the raw footage he already has.

I'm just mentioning this for future conferences.

-Steve

September 08, 2022
On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 15:02:47 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> I've seen other conference streams where the image of the speaker is very narrow, and therefore they can consume most of the screen with the slides. I think that's ideal.

I don't disagree with the slides on the screen, my problem was when showing this way: https://imgur.com/1LeGPRd , for example I was reading the slide normally live until the screen would split and now 2 tiny texts (Remembering: For me watching on the phone with vision impairment it was tough), and still is since I do it mostly on phone while I'm doing interval at work.

I think one or another should be used, but the original video was enough/readable as is (At least for me) without that split.

Matheus.
September 08, 2022
On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 14:57:48 UTC, matheus. wrote:
> On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 10:40:41 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
>> Are you still talking about the edited version?
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>> ... I didn't like the random switching in the livestream (which is what the recorded version is), which is why I decided to edit.
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> I don't like either, and in DConf it wasn't even needed to to that since the slides was already fully visible through the video, my problem was the size when in split screen mode with 2 small texts while watching on my phone (Which is watch I use mostly), and with vision impairment it's tough.

Okay. I thought that by cutting to the split view in my edits, I was making the slide more legible. I actually had you in mind when I did it. It looks bigger and clearer to me than what is head on in the raw video footage, and definitely bigger than what they did in the livestream. Sorry it's less legible for you.

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> By the way, is there any recorded version with that same camera from far behind without any edition (ie: split screen)?
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Yes. I can make that available to you. Email me (aldacron@gmail.com) and I'll set you up.

The slides for John Colvin's video are 16:9, so I'm not doing the picture-in-picture thing for them. Most of them are pretty big in the raw video, but I'm showing a full screen view of each slide anyway for varying periods of time based on what he's saying. I hope this one turns out better for you.

September 08, 2022

On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 15:02:47 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

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I've seen other conference streams where the image of the speaker is very narrow, and therefore they can consume most of the screen with the slides. I think that's ideal.

Picture-in-picture has been requested many times in the past, with different examples given. This format you mention has come up several times. Next year, I'll ask ahead of time if we can arrange something like that.

September 08, 2022
On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 17:34:53 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
> ... Sorry it's less legible for you.

Hi Mike, in any case I'd like to say thank you very much for your work and trying to help me, I really appreciated all your effort and time.

> Yes. I can make that available to you. Email me (aldacron@gmail.com) and I'll set you up.

I'll do that this weekend.

> The slides for John Colvin's video are 16:9, so I'm not doing the picture-in-picture thing for them. Most of them are pretty big in the raw video, but I'm showing a full screen view of each slide anyway for varying periods of time based on what he's saying. I hope this one turns out better for you.

Since I'm foreigner I may sound a bit rough in my comments, but I really appreciated your help.

Thanks again,

Matheus.
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