On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 at 11:44:11 UTC, Dominikus Dittes Scherkl wrote:
> I think they update only stuff for which security problems were fixed and everything that depends on those, and that's it.

And by the way, for some people that is the reason to install such a kind of distro:
to not be suprised by any updates that destroy your dependencies or change the behavior in any unexpected way.
If you like, you can update a package any time by yourself, if that is necessary. To be always up to date I would recommend a different kind of distro.

On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 at 09:38:26 UTC, aberba wrote:
> On Monday, 29 January 2018 at 07:40:10 UTC, Dominikus Dittes Scherkl wrote:
>> On Saturday, 27 January 2018 at 21:42:49 UTC, aberba wrote:
>>> [...] Ubuntu 16.04
>> This is a long-term support distribution.
>> Don't expect those to have actual tip versions of any SW package!
>> They rely on stabe versions that don't have the latest features
>> but only those very well tested.
>
> The semver 1.7 is not an unstable package. Its that their reason for no updates?

LDC 1.7.0 includes major changes to the frontend and is not well-tested.
If you want a better-tested recent LDC, I recommend LDC 1.6.0, which is used in production at Weka.

- Johan

On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 at 18:30:56 UTC, Johan Engelen wrote:
> On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 at 09:38:26 UTC, aberba wrote:
>> On Monday, 29 January 2018 at 07:40:10 UTC, Dominikus Dittes Scherkl wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 27 January 2018 at 21:42:49 UTC, aberba wrote:
>>>> [...] Ubuntu 16.04
>>> This is a long-term support distribution.
>>> Don't expect those to have actual tip versions of any SW package!
>>> They rely on stabe versions that don't have the latest features
>>> but only those very well tested.
>>
>> The semver 1.7 is not an unstable package. Its that their reason for no updates?
>
> LDC 1.7.0 includes major changes to the frontend and is not well-tested.
> If you want a better-tested recent LDC, I recommend LDC 1.6.0, which is used in production at Weka.
>
> - Johan

I expected at least 1.6 to be available in the repo by now. I remember the availability of LDC in ubuntu was celebrated here...now it seem abandoned after such an effort. Maybe someone from the team can answer what happened.

On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 at 19:57:39 UTC, aberba wrote:
> now it seem abandoned after such an effort.

Can you confirm it for Ubuntu 17?

On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 at 19:57:39 UTC, aberba wrote:
> On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 at 18:30:56 UTC, Johan Engelen wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 at 09:38:26 UTC, aberba wrote:
>>> On Monday, 29 January 2018 at 07:40:10 UTC, Dominikus Dittes Scherkl wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 27 January 2018 at 21:42:49 UTC, aberba wrote:
>>>>> [...] Ubuntu 16.04
>>>> This is a long-term support distribution.
>>>> Don't expect those to have actual tip versions of any SW package!
>>>> They rely on stabe versions that don't have the latest features
>>>> but only those very well tested.
>>>
>>> The semver 1.7 is not an unstable package. Its that their reason for no updates?
>>
>> LDC 1.7.0 includes major changes to the frontend and is not well-tested.
>> If you want a better-tested recent LDC, I recommend LDC 1.6.0, which is used in production at Weka.
>>
>> - Johan
>
> I expected at least 1.6 to be available in the repo by now. I remember the availability of LDC in ubuntu was celebrated here...now it seem abandoned after such an effort. Maybe someone from the team can answer what happened.

1.6 is in Debian - as other explained before Debian is __very__ focused on stability.

https://packages.debian.org/sid/ldc ("Unstable" - 1.6)
https://packages.debian.org/buster/ldc (Debian 9 - 1.5)
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/ldc (Debian 8 - 1.0)

Ubuntu usually lags one version behind Debian packages:

https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ldc ("Unstable" - 1.5)
https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/ldc (17.10 - 1.4)

If you want to have the latest D compiler on Debian/Ubuntu, you have these options:

- use d-apt (d-apt.sourceforge.net)
- use the official install script (https://dlang.org/install.html)
- install the official deb package yourself (https://dlang.org/download.html)
- use a different distro

This is not something that can __ever__ be fixed. It's the fundamental way Debian's packaging and release cycle work.

On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 12:57:44 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
> On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 at 19:57:39 UTC, aberba wrote:
>> now it seem abandoned after such an effort.
>
> Can you confirm it for Ubuntu 17?

I'm on 16.04.