On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 00:54:17 UTC, jurr wrote:
> ...If you just want to make a comment on a topic without replying to any specific person...

I don't get because I think most of the time when you post something, you do by replying to someone anyway, you don't say things out of blue, you need a context.

For me most of the the things brought up here in this topic are not a problem at all.

This is one of best "forum-like" that I use, it is direct to the point, no fancy things to distract and thankfully no delete/change messages allowed.

Matt.

On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 01:09:29 UTC, MattCoder wrote:
> On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 00:54:17 UTC, jurr wrote:
>> ...If you just want to make a comment on a topic without replying to any specific person...
>
> I don't get because I think most of the time when you post something, you do by replying to someone anyway, you don't say things out of blue, you need a context.
>
> For me most of the the things brought up here in this topic are not a problem at all.
>
> This is one of best "forum-like" that I use, it is direct to the point, no fancy things to distract and thankfully no delete/change messages allowed.
>
> Matt.

See the third reply and also my first point of that post :).

On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 09:52:01 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote:
> On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 08:39:38 UTC, Andrey wrote:
>> On Sunday, 19 August 2018 at 11:11:56 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:
>>> This is a news group not a forum.
>>> The web interface is driven by DFeed and is written in D.
>>>
>>> It has been designed to be very fast (quite a notable feature).
>>
>> I see this address: https://forum.dlang.org. It is forum.
>> Ok, even if it isn't a forum, will dlang community have someday the real forum? Are there any movements in this direction?
>
> What are the specific problems solved or opportunities realised by moving to a real forum?

Inability to edit messages.

On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 09:52:01 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote:
> What are the specific problems solved or opportunities realised by moving to a real forum?

What are the specific problems solved by using better software?

Well, most software projects, have different channels of communications,
some use forums, some use newsgroups, some use irc, some use slack, some rely on stackoverflow, some have an active wiki

But each project usually have one channel that is really the go to place to get help

I strongly believe that a better forum, that allow users some personalization and flexibility, will help grow the community, and growing the community is a good objective

Every now and then someone new to D comes and ask, why arent we using better forum software. And the replies they get are usually of the type, that this works for the current users and its not worth the effort to switch to something else

Many of those new comers who ask about the forum software .. they never stick, they dont complain, or question, or try to change for the better, they simply leave

You can not really measure how much the D community might have lost, by resisting the repeat demand of using a better forum ... and its not like D have other channels

On 8/20/2018 8:42 PM, Ali wrote:
> Many of those new comers who ask about the forum software .. they never stick, they dont complain, or question, or try to change for the better, they simply leave

Ask 10 people, and you'll get 10 different answers on what a better forum would be. If people leave because of the forum software, changing it won't change that.

On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 03:42:21 UTC, Ali wrote:
> Many of those new comers who ask about the forum software .. they never stick, they dont complain, or question, or try to change for the better, they simply leave
>

I think this is the best forum I have ever used, it's a big contributing factor to that I post here! I don't post every month praising the forum, I'm silently happy. But if we changed I would likely complain every month.

On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 05:30:07 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> Ask 10 people, and you'll get 10 different answers on what a better forum would be.

Actually I think we can get 8 out of those 10 to agree,
rust, ocaml, fsharp, nim, scala, clojure .. all use https://www.discourse.org/
I think this software is nowadays regarded and the best

> If people leave because of the forum software, changing it won't change that.

I also agree with that, most people who leave probably leave for more objective reasons, like that the language doesn't answer their needs, or they didnt find the libraries they needed within the ecosystem etc...

But what I really meant, is that out of those who leaves, there is possible a very small percentage who left, because they couldnt communicate effectively with the community, and that better communication channels in general ( and a better forum software as an example) could have kept them around for longer , replacing the forum software is a small change, a small win, and I expect small returns. But a small win, is a win

On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 03:42:21 UTC, Ali wrote:
> On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 09:52:01 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote:
>> What are the specific problems solved or opportunities realised by moving to a real forum?
>
> What are the specific problems solved by using better software?
>
> Well, most software projects, have different channels of communications,
> some use forums, some use newsgroups, some use irc, some use slack,

Yep, D also has an active IRC channel (#d) and Slack group (https://forum.dlang.org/post/gidqeijjswgnpveogmzr@forum.dlang.org).

> some rely on stackoverflow, some have an active wiki

There are a few good points to move D.learn to Stack Overflow and that's actually one thing that we have talked about a few times and somehow never has happened. In the D survey there was a 2:1 "consensus" for StackOverflow.

On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 14:18:40 UTC, Seb wrote:
> On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 03:42:21 UTC, Ali wrote:
>> On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 09:52:01 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote:
>>> [...]
>>
>> What are the specific problems solved by using better software?
>>
>> Well, most software projects, have different channels of communications,
>> some use forums, some use newsgroups, some use irc, some use slack,
>
> Yep, D also has an active IRC channel (#d) and Slack group (https://forum.dlang.org/post/gidqeijjswgnpveogmzr@forum.dlang.org).
>
>> some rely on stackoverflow, some have an active wiki
>
> There are a few good points to move D.learn to Stack Overflow and that's actually one thing that we have talked about a few times and somehow never has happened. In the D survey there was a 2:1 "consensus" for StackOverflow.

That would increase the visibility of D as well!

On Tuesday, 21 August 2018 at 14:08:01 UTC, Ali wrote:
[...]
> But what I really meant, is that out of those who leaves, there is possible a very small percentage who left, because they couldnt communicate effectively with the community,

Are you serious? This forum software is the most effektive I know. It is also efficient, especially for reading messages.

> and that better communication channels in general ( and a better forum software as an example) could have kept them around for longer,

To what advantage?

> replacing the forum software is a small change,

Arguably...

> a small win, and I expect small returns. But a small win, is a win

It’s not a win in everybody’s minds ;-)

I’m not saying that the forum cannot be improved, but to scrap it would be a loss if you ask me.