2012/6/5 Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg@gmx.com>

I think that Bernard is being a bit harsh, but in essence, I agree. Since the
evaluation order of arguments is undefined, programmers should be aware of that
and code accordingly. If they don't bother to learn, then they're going to get
bitten, and that's life.

Now, Walter _has_ expressed interest in changing it so that the order of
evaluation for function arguments is fully defined as being left-to-right,
which solves the issue. I'd still council against getting into the habit of
writing code which relies on the order of evaluation for the arguments to a
function, since it's so common for other languages not to define it (so that
the compiler can better optimize the calls), and so getting into the habit of
writing code which _does_ depend on the order of evalution for function
arguments will cause you to write bad code you when you work in most other
programming languages.

As for treating pre or post-increment operators specially in some manner, that
doesn't make sense. The problem is far more general than that. If we're going
to change anything, it would be to make it so that the language itself defines
the order of evaluation of function arguments as being left-to-right.

- Jonathan M Davis