On 17 September 2013 21:48, Bruno Medeiros <brunodomedeiros+dng@gmail.com> wrote:
On 17/09/2013 12:37, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
On 16/09/2013 22:39, Brad Roberts wrote:
On 9/16/13 8:52 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Manu's point with regards with
IDE "official endorsement" was
more to try to have the D language organization devs (Walter, Andrei,
etc.) *use* VisualD or another
IDE and understand the issues around it (especially with regards to
compiler/debugger integration).

If that's the definition of official endorsement, then sorry, not likely
to ever happen.  Demanding that the core devs develop with specific
tools is ridiculous in concept.  Would you switch because someone told
you to?  Me either.  I've been using vi(m) for about 20 years now.  My
fingers know what to do without conscious control.. I don't have the
free time nor the desire to retrain myself like that.


I agree, I don't think it's a realistic to expect that. I was just
pointing out Manu's idea, not agreeing with it.


Clarification: I think it's unrealistic to expected the core devs to use the IDE for all of their D development, yes. But it would be good to have them *try* it, to see how it works, to understand how others users would develop in D, what quality issues there could be with it, etc. In this regard I agree with Manu's comments.

I'll happily wear that my assertion was heavy handed, mostly due to long-term frustration, and to some extent, this is just the way I talk (which never comes across in text to people who don't know me).
Regardless of how I phrased it however, I'm encouraged to see the message was generally well received and actions have been taken. I'm keen to see if/how it affects the ecosystem in the future.
I hope it does increase the overall attention/awareness.