On 13 April 2013 02:07, Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:27:11 -0400, Manu <turkeyman@gmail.com> wrote:

I maintain the position that it needs at least a year in the real world
before you can truly be confident in it. New things shouldn't be barred
from post-release tuning on account of "omg it's a breaking change!".

I hate the 'omg it's a breaking change!' mentality as well. This is an UNRELEASED product.

I also hate the idea of creating another javax.

I don't understand this problem? Why is there a problem moving it when it's ready?

It's already understood to be experimental, and the user has already accepted the contract that changes can be made (including moving it to std).