Damian Dixon wrote in message <1109_979295385@dilbert>...
>> I appreciate all the work everyone here in the newsgroup is doing to
produce
>> workarounds for the template issues.
>Is there anything the rest of us could do to help?


Certainly, the work going on here to get a version of STL to work is great.

A (rather dull) job I need to do is to get the manuals converted into usable html format, since my intention is to have all the manuals online instead of published. To do that, I ran all the .pdf files through adobe's pdf->html translator. Unfortunately, their software did a terrible job - the text is all there, but the formatting is a mess. All the html files need to  be gone through line by line and the formatting corrected by hand. Ugh. I could just say "use the .pdf files", but I don't like using them and I doubt other net people do either.

The printf and scanf functions need to be upgraded to support 80 bit long doubles and hex floats. Any library changes need to be accompanied with test programs to verify that they work.

I want to sort out and reorganize the library source tree so the old cruft is shunted aside and just the win32 stuff remains, and make it easier to build the library.

Rewrite the makefiles to use MAKE instead of SMAKE. (Licensing issues with
SMAKE).

At issue also would be the compensation for any work people do that is on proprietary stuff. Due to licensing issues, I can't make it open source, nor can I transfer copyrights.

Jan Knepper wrote in message <3A5F347E.2DDE0BE6@smartsoft.cc>...
>Know exactly what you mean...
>Although, my customers NEVER look into my code.



I've warned people that if they looked at my code, they'd need new glasses, lose their hair, and probably require psychoanalysis.

I use a firewall implemented as a separate piece of hardware. So far, so good. I also like it because the front panel lights blink on it - after all, what's a computer without das blinkenlights? Now if they'd only make a router with nixie tubes on it, I'm sold!

Jan Knepper wrote in message <3A5F3738.8FCE7687@smartsoft.cc>...
>Walter wrote:
>
>> I've had to reboot my linux box a few times, but the people in the linux newsgroups called me a liar because linux *never* freezes up <g>.
>
><grin>
>The truth is, as far as I know, that Linux is more on the bleeding edge of
>technology than BSD. Drivers for new hardware are mostly implemented in
Linux
>first and than (quite) a bit later BSD follows.
>
>I would not say that I would not know how to crash BSD, but it has been
proven
>that BSD is more stable, secure and has a more crash proof file system. BSD
>seems to have the fastest TCP stack which is great with all the current DoS
>attact that happen on the Internet these days.
>I could show you some log files. You would be amazed how many port scans
and
>other things happen. One of the cutest is IP packages comming in via the external interface that claim to come from 192.168.0.0/16, 172.16.0.0/12 or 10.0.0.0/8... These addresses are for private networks defined so by RFC
1918,
>which means they legally NEVER can come from the Internet and thus never
should
>come in via the external interface of the system.
>
>Jan
>
>
>
>

Lost most of my hear already at age of 33...
Used to have glasses, but got LASIK surgery a couple of months ago to correct a
+4.5 on both eyes, so glasses are out I guess.
I still might need the psychoanalysis though...



Walter wrote:

> Jan Knepper wrote in message <3A5F347E.2DDE0BE6@smartsoft.cc>...
> >Know exactly what you mean...
> >Although, my customers NEVER look into my code.
>
> I've warned people that if they looked at my code, they'd need new glasses, lose their hair, and probably require psychoanalysis.

Walter wrote:

> I use a firewall implemented as a separate piece of hardware. So far, so good. I also like it because the front panel lights blink on it - after all, what's a computer without das blinkenlights? Now if they'd only make a router with nixie tubes on it, I'm sold!

I used to do that too!
I actually had a Ascend Pipeline 75 which I really liked during the time I was
connected via ISDN...

Currently I am connected via the Internet host machine (which has two network interfaces) one goes to the internal network and one to the external network, in other words, the Internet. Both interfaces are connected to 100-TX hubs which connect to the Cisco Router in case of the external interface. Can tell you... I've got a lot of "knipper-lichten"

Here comes the dumb question:
What is a Nixie Tube???

Walter wrote:

> Certainly, the work going on here to get a version of STL to work is great.

Thanks!

> A (rather dull) job I need to do is to get the manuals converted into usable html format, since my intention is to have all the manuals online instead of published. To do that, I ran all the .pdf files through adobe's pdf->html translator. Unfortunately, their software did a terrible job - the text is all there, but the formatting is a mess. All the html files need to  be gone through line by line and the formatting corrected by hand. Ugh. I could just say "use the .pdf files", but I don't like using them and I doubt other net people do either.

Well, for now we could publish them as they are. A lot of company's seem to use .PDF files online and with the plugin's it isn't really a problem.

> The printf and scanf functions need to be upgraded to support 80 bit long doubles and hex floats. Any library changes need to be accompanied with test programs to verify that they work.

Cool! Any description available?

> I want to sort out and reorganize the library source tree so the old cruft is shunted aside and just the win32 stuff remains, and make it easier to build the library.

Good idea!

> Rewrite the makefiles to use MAKE instead of SMAKE. (Licensing issues with
> SMAKE).

Hmmm, there is no way of getting it from "Innovative Data Concepts Incorporated"?

> At issue also would be the compensation for any work people do that is on proprietary stuff. Due to licensing issues, I can't make it open source, nor can I transfer copyrights.

That would be great and also a very good motivator to do more, at least for me as I am independent, but still need to work for my bread (and expenses)...

Jan

>

Well, I can't get Damian's mods to my test code to compile, even though it
comiples for him.
I have set an include path to STLPort. If I try to use the DMC 8 download
it tells me that the compiler version is not registered (or to that effect).
I have reverted
back to earlier compilers, back to 7.6, getting failures in internal .h
files, like rel_ops,
saying "function expected."

Damian, what compiler version are you using?

Jan, since Damian has probably retired for the weekend, do you have any ideas?

Ed Sowell

Did you get the standard STLport or did you get the new .tar.gz file which should include all the latest modification Damian made?

When you use that version you should be able to use compiler version 8.0

Jan



"Edward F. Sowell" wrote:

> >
>
> Well, I can't get Damian's mods to my test code to compile, even though it
> comiples for him.
> I have set an include path to STLPort. If I try to use the DMC 8 download
> it tells me that the compiler version is not registered (or to that effect).
> I have reverted
> back to earlier compilers, back to 7.6, getting failures in internal .h
> files, like rel_ops,
> saying "function expected."
>
> Damian, what compiler version are you using?
>
> Jan, since Damian has probably retired for the weekend, do you have any ideas?
>
> Ed Sowell

I considered the laser surgery, but due to my advancing age I would need reading glasses anyway so I thought why bother. I also want the UV blocking I can get with glasses, since I'm at risk for macular degeneration, and lifetime UV dosage is a risk for that.


Jan Knepper wrote in message <3A5F5942.D6E8B121@smartsoft.cc>...
>Lost most of my hear already at age of 33...
>Used to have glasses, but got LASIK surgery a couple of months ago to
correct a
>+4.5 on both eyes, so glasses are out I guess.
>I still might need the psychoanalysis though...
>
>
>
>Walter wrote:
>
>> Jan Knepper wrote in message <3A5F347E.2DDE0BE6@smartsoft.cc>...
>> >Know exactly what you mean...
>> >Although, my customers NEVER look into my code.
>>
>> I've warned people that if they looked at my code, they'd need new
glasses,
>> lose their hair, and probably require psychoanalysis.
>

Jan Knepper wrote in message <3A5F5EAF.9FE11F4A@smartsoft.cc>...
>Walter wrote:
>> Rewrite the makefiles to use MAKE instead of SMAKE. (Licensing issues
with
>> SMAKE).
>Hmmm, there is no way of getting it from "Innovative Data Concepts Incorporated"?


I can't find them <g>. Who actually has the IP rights to SMAKE I have not been able to determine, nor can I locate the source to it. It doesn't seem worth the bother to deal with since I have unquestioned IP rights to MAKE and the source for it.