March 17, 2008
Saaa wrote:
> How does poseidon match up to Descent?
> I never used Descent nor Code::Blocks, but maybe I just don't know what I'm missing.
> 
>> I should also add that many of Descent's semantic features are 1.x-only. 

Never used Poseidon, so I can't say (hopefully someone else can, though). Poseidon is internationalized (we plan to do that in Descent... eventually), compact (only a few megs download), and looks to be well-integrated with the compiler.
March 17, 2008
I do know that code::blocks just released a new stable version 8.02
However, I have it set up to compile C++ although it is suppose to do
d also. Zeus for windows looks very promising as an IDE for d. It is already
partly setup and has detailed instructions on the web site and in the help
menu. It will do auto-completion and context sensitive help for both D1
and Tango. It can also be setup to use ddbg as the frontend for its
debugger. I have just finished setting it up to use as my d IDE but have
not as yet tried it out. I will let you know if it works OK or not.

lh

BCS Wrote:

> I have been asked by my boss to put together a overview of the state of D with regards to using it in a medium sized commercial app. It will be a development tool that we expect to be, complexity wise, somewhat akin to AWK, the C preprocessor or pearl. Several of the questions I have been asked to address were easy for me to answer but a few are outside my experience. So I’m looking for answers to some of these questions.
> 
> 
> I’ll post their questions (with a few edits) and, where appropriate, the specific points I’m looking for input on.
> 
> 1. “ddbg works great with dmd 2.012.  However, when used with dmd 1.x, the local values do not print well. Please find out if there are plans to support dmd 1.x in ddbg.”
> 
> 
> 2. “Please determine how Code::Blocks works as a debugger when combined with
> ddbg for dmd 1.x.”
> -a. Is D support under code::blocks under active development?
> -b. If we were to use it and then found D specific issues are we likely to
> see the fixed in a reasonably short time frame?
> 
> 
> 3. “Can Code::Blocks do auto-complete in general and what would it take to
> make it work for D.”
> -a. I should really answerer the first bit myself but I don’t have Code::Blocks
> (or C++) set up on my systems.
> 
> 
> 4. “What is the current stability of dmd 2.0?” -a. I said alpha. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
> 
> 
> 5. “What is the estimated “ship date” of dmd 2.0?”
> 
> 
> 6. “What is the new features list for dmd 2.0? “
> 
> 
> 
> I generally develop with a good text editor and a build script so I’m not at all up to date on IDE’s and such so I have a few questions of my own:
> 
> 1. What is the state of the art in IDE’s for D? Code::Blocks? Eclipse+Decent?
> 
> 2. What stage are these in? Stable, approaching stability, active development, in development but not very active?
> 
> 3. Same for debuggers. I know ddbg works on windows and for Linux there is a GDB patch and ZeroBugs. However I haven’t seen much recent work on any of these.
> 
> 4. Direct question to Walter (and the developers of the other tools) If we were to use D and run into a blocking issue, can we effect your properties with regards to resolving it? (This assumes that the issue is not a language design issue.)
> 
> 
> If I get enough responses that I can put together a report of some kind for my boss I’ll post it somewhere (with necessary redactions ;-)
> 
> 

March 17, 2008
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:20:26 +0000 (UTC), BCS wrote:

> Reply to Derek,
> 
>> real life does impose itself from time to time ;-)
>> 
> 
> Not in my life. In my life it's the other way around <G> "free time comes around from time to time".

I suspect you might have had your sarcasm filter switched on <G>

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17/03/2008 5:32:47 PM
March 17, 2008
BCS <ao@pathlink.com> wrote:
> > BCS:
> > 
> >> 4. “What is the current stability of dmd 2.0?” -a. I said alpha. Please correct me if I’m wrong. 5. “What is the estimated “ship date” of dmd 2.0?”
> >> 
> 
> Garsh De'rn Unicode!!! (I wrote that in word :b)
> 
> 

The original posting looks fine here (claws-mail, linux), the quoted
stuff above looks weird.

Henning

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March 17, 2008
BCS wrote:
> Reply to Ary,
>> Well... unless they are
>> willing to quit their job just for a bug fix or enhancement.
> 
> We're /not/ looking to /hire/ a tool chain <G>
> 

Hah.

"Fresh, dynamic startup looking to hire a D compiler/linker. Must have two years experience with generating AST representations. Must be able to generate x86 assembler. Must be able to perform optimizations equivalent to O2 on the standard GCC scale. JVM bytecode not required, but would definitely help your chances. Employee insurance benefits cover segmentation faults."
March 17, 2008
downs wrote:
> BCS wrote:
>
>>We're /not/ looking to /hire/ a tool chain <G>
> 
> Hah.
> 
> "[...]Employee insurance benefits cover segmentation faults."

http://xkcd.com/371/
March 17, 2008
Lawrence wrote:
> I do know that code::blocks just released a new stable version 8.02
> However, I have it set up to compile C++ although it is suppose to do
> d also. Zeus for windows looks very promising as an IDE for d. It is already
> partly setup and has detailed instructions on the web site and in the help
> menu. It will do auto-completion and context sensitive help for both D1
> and Tango. It can also be setup to use ddbg as the frontend for its
> debugger. I have just finished setting it up to use as my d IDE but have
> not as yet tried it out. I will let you know if it works OK or not.
> 
> lh
> 

thanks, looking forward to it.
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