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June 02, 2002 X32 and DOSEMU | ||||
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As I promised, I tried to run a DOS extended program produced by DMC under DOSEMU. It doesn't work - it just prints the message "Fatal allocating DOS memory", and exits. DOSEMU version is 0.99.8, and uses FreeDOS kernel (www.freedos.org). I compiled the same source with DJGPP (go32v2 extender) and BCC32 (converted to WDOSX-0.96 DOS extendended program), and they both work. I even ran DOOM 1.9 for DOS (it uses DOS/4GW from Rational Software), and it works perfectly. Maybe it's something wrong with X32, if all other DOS extenders run without problems? Laurentiu |
June 02, 2002 Re: X32 and DOSEMU | ||||
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Posted in reply to Laurentiu Pancescu | It seems the Flashtek DOS Extender is a bit outdated. By the way, now Rationl Systems is Tenberry. If you are looking for a DOS4GW compatible DOS Extender, but faster, smaller, and open source, take a look at http://dos32a.sourceforge.net "Laurentiu Pancescu" <user@domain.invalid> escribió en el mensaje news:adctc8$2vmn$1@digitaldaemon.com... > As I promised, I tried to run a DOS extended program produced by DMC under DOSEMU. It doesn't work - it just prints the message "Fatal allocating DOS > memory", and exits. > > DOSEMU version is 0.99.8, and uses FreeDOS kernel (www.freedos.org). I > compiled the same source with DJGPP (go32v2 extender) and BCC32 (converted > to WDOSX-0.96 DOS extendended program), and they both work. I even ran DOOM > 1.9 for DOS (it uses DOS/4GW from Rational Software), and it works perfectly. Maybe it's something wrong with X32, if all other DOS extenders > run without problems? > > Laurentiu > > |
June 03, 2002 Re: X32 and DOSEMU | ||||
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Posted in reply to Javier Gutiérrez | "Javier Gutiérrez" wrote:
> It seems the Flashtek DOS Extender is a bit outdated.
> By the way, now Rationl Systems is Tenberry.
> If you are looking for a DOS4GW compatible DOS Extender, but faster,
> smaller, and open source, take a look at http://dos32a.sourceforge.net
<g>
I you should compare what size and performance Flashtek's DOSX gave/gives...
It's made DOS3GW look pretty bad...
Jan
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June 03, 2002 Re: X32 and DOSEMU | ||||
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Posted in reply to Javier Gutiérrez | It looks really impressive... I'm speechless! <g> Are you maintaining it now? I saw on the credits list the name of Thomas Pythel - is he the same guy who wrote the PMODE series extenders, aka Tran? I'm not sure what it would be easier: to bug Walter to modify OPTLINK to generate LX executables (DMC already supports creating DOS/16M executables, why not also DOS/4G ones?), or convince him to tell us what are the DMC requirements for generating a DOSX exe, so we can add support in another extender? X32 seems to have a few problems, and doesn't seem to be maintained any more, so we need our own replacement for X32... <g> I can hardly wait for OpenWatcom to do a full release... ;) Laurentiu "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:addjfo$s3r$1@digitaldaemon.com... > It seems the Flashtek DOS Extender is a bit outdated. > By the way, now Rationl Systems is Tenberry. > If you are looking for a DOS4GW compatible DOS Extender, but faster, > smaller, and open source, take a look at http://dos32a.sourceforge.net > |
June 03, 2002 Re: X32 and DOSEMU | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jan Knepper | About size, I cannot agree more! But about performance... X32 doesn't properly align its stack to para (which generates severe performance degradation - maybe it's also dependent of DMC generated code, dunno), I heard it crashes under XP and I saw it dying under DOSEMU. And I still haven't heard of any update after May15th 2001 - too bad... :( Laurentiu "Jan Knepper" <jan@smartsoft.cc> wrote in message news:3CFABC59.F14758D1@smartsoft.cc... > > I you should compare what size and performance Flashtek's DOSX gave/gives... > It's made DOS3GW look pretty bad... > Jan |
June 03, 2002 Re: X32 and DOSEMU | ||||
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Posted in reply to Laurentiu Pancescu | The DOS/32 A project will be hosted under the OpenWatcom Perforce system, and maybe the official web site too. I think there will be no problem with using it with DMC, but in that case you should contact Narech Koumar (narech@NOSPAM@telia.com), the original author, since I was only the web site developer. "Laurentiu Pancescu" <user@nowhere.near> escribió en el mensaje news:adf7ni$okl$1@digitaldaemon.com... > It looks really impressive... I'm speechless! <g> Are you maintaining it now? I saw on the credits list the name of Thomas Pythel - is he the same guy who wrote the PMODE series extenders, aka Tran? > > I'm not sure what it would be easier: to bug Walter to modify OPTLINK to generate LX executables (DMC already supports creating DOS/16M executables, > why not also DOS/4G ones?), or convince him to tell us what are the DMC requirements for generating a DOSX exe, so we can add support in another extender? X32 seems to have a few problems, and doesn't seem to be maintained any more, so we need our own replacement for X32... <g> > > I can hardly wait for OpenWatcom to do a full release... ;) > > Laurentiu > > "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:addjfo$s3r$1@digitaldaemon.com... > > It seems the Flashtek DOS Extender is a bit outdated. > > By the way, now Rationl Systems is Tenberry. > > If you are looking for a DOS4GW compatible DOS Extender, but faster, > > smaller, and open source, take a look at http://dos32a.sourceforge.net > > > > > |
June 03, 2002 Re: X32 and DOSEMU | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jan Knepper | The problem is that X32 does not work well under modern machines. "Jan Knepper" <jan@smartsoft.cc> escribió en el mensaje news:3CFABC59.F14758D1@smartsoft.cc... > "Javier Gutiérrez" wrote: > > > It seems the Flashtek DOS Extender is a bit outdated. > > By the way, now Rationl Systems is Tenberry. > > If you are looking for a DOS4GW compatible DOS Extender, but faster, > > smaller, and open source, take a look at http://dos32a.sourceforge.net > > <g> > I you should compare what size and performance Flashtek's DOSX gave/gives... > It's made DOS3GW look pretty bad... > Jan > > |
June 03, 2002 Re: X32 and DOSEMU | ||||
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Posted in reply to Javier Gutiérrez | I am not the author of DOS/32A, nor the mantainer due to a problems of missunderstanding the license. "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho@NOSPAM@hotmail.com> escribió en el mensaje news:adf8o1$pno$1@digitaldaemon.com... > The DOS/32 A project will be hosted under the OpenWatcom Perforce > system, and maybe the official web site too. > > I think there will be no problem with using it with DMC, but in that > case you should contact Narech Koumar (narech@NOSPAM@telia.com), the > original author, since I was only the web site developer. > > > "Laurentiu Pancescu" <user@nowhere.near> escribió en el mensaje news:adf7ni$okl$1@digitaldaemon.com... > > It looks really impressive... I'm speechless! <g> Are you maintaining it > > now? I saw on the credits list the name of Thomas Pythel - is he the same > > guy who wrote the PMODE series extenders, aka Tran? > > > > I'm not sure what it would be easier: to bug Walter to modify OPTLINK to generate LX executables (DMC already supports creating DOS/16M > executables, > > why not also DOS/4G ones?), or convince him to tell us what are the DMC requirements for generating a DOSX exe, so we can add support in another extender? X32 seems to have a few problems, and doesn't seem to be maintained any more, so we need our own replacement for X32... <g> > > > > I can hardly wait for OpenWatcom to do a full release... ;) > > > > Laurentiu > > > > "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:addjfo$s3r$1@digitaldaemon.com... > > > It seems the Flashtek DOS Extender is a bit outdated. > > > By the way, now Rationl Systems is Tenberry. > > > If you are looking for a DOS4GW compatible DOS Extender, but faster, > > > smaller, and open source, take a look at http://dos32a.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > > > |
June 03, 2002 Re: X32 and DOSEMU | ||||
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Posted in reply to Javier Gutiérrez | I looked in the project page at SourceForge, and you appeared as the project admin. Therefore I assumed you're developping it... Do you think Narech Koumar would be interested in modifying DOS32A for supporting DigitalMars DOS extended applications? Walter, would this be of interest for you? Probably, at least some specs would be needed... Laurentiu "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho@NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:adf8o1$pno$1@digitaldaemon.com... > The DOS/32 A project will be hosted under the OpenWatcom Perforce > system, and maybe the official web site too. > > I think there will be no problem with using it with DMC, but in that > case you should contact Narech Koumar (narech@NOSPAM@telia.com), the > original author, since I was only the web site developer. > > > "Laurentiu Pancescu" <user@nowhere.near> escribió en el mensaje news:adf7ni$okl$1@digitaldaemon.com... > > It looks really impressive... I'm speechless! <g> Are you maintaining it > > now? I saw on the credits list the name of Thomas Pythel - is he the same > > guy who wrote the PMODE series extenders, aka Tran? > > > > I'm not sure what it would be easier: to bug Walter to modify OPTLINK to generate LX executables (DMC already supports creating DOS/16M > executables, > > why not also DOS/4G ones?), or convince him to tell us what are the DMC requirements for generating a DOSX exe, so we can add support in another extender? X32 seems to have a few problems, and doesn't seem to be maintained any more, so we need our own replacement for X32... <g> > > > > I can hardly wait for OpenWatcom to do a full release... ;) > > > > Laurentiu > > > > "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:addjfo$s3r$1@digitaldaemon.com... > > > It seems the Flashtek DOS Extender is a bit outdated. > > > By the way, now Rationl Systems is Tenberry. > > > If you are looking for a DOS4GW compatible DOS Extender, but faster, > > > smaller, and open source, take a look at http://dos32a.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > > > |
June 03, 2002 Re: X32 and DOSEMU | ||||
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Posted in reply to Laurentiu Pancescu | I was (in past) the coordinator of the project, but due to license issues it could not be called DOS/32A, so I removed all the files and the docs from the site. Nowadays you can only download the original 7.1 version original by Narech, and not the my derived 8.00 version. The project was a bit abandoned until Narech noticed a bit of interest in DOS programming in the OpenWatcom group, so he decided to release it as Open Source (I must remember it was a commercial product). I do not know if he would be interested in modifying it, but there is nothing bad in download the program with the sources and adapt it to be compatible with DMC as far as it is not called DOS/32 A nor DOS/32 Advanced. "Laurentiu Pancescu" <user@nowhere.near> escribió en el mensaje news:adfgj4$11no$1@digitaldaemon.com... > I looked in the project page at SourceForge, and you appeared as the project > admin. Therefore I assumed you're developping it... > > Do you think Narech Koumar would be interested in modifying DOS32A for supporting DigitalMars DOS extended applications? Walter, would this be of > interest for you? Probably, at least some specs would be needed... > > Laurentiu > > "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho@NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:adf8o1$pno$1@digitaldaemon.com... > > The DOS/32 A project will be hosted under the OpenWatcom Perforce > > system, and maybe the official web site too. > > > > I think there will be no problem with using it with DMC, but in that > > case you should contact Narech Koumar (narech@NOSPAM@telia.com), the > > original author, since I was only the web site developer. > > > > > > "Laurentiu Pancescu" <user@nowhere.near> escribió en el mensaje news:adf7ni$okl$1@digitaldaemon.com... > > > It looks really impressive... I'm speechless! <g> Are you maintaining > it > > > now? I saw on the credits list the name of Thomas Pythel - is he the > same > > > guy who wrote the PMODE series extenders, aka Tran? > > > > > > I'm not sure what it would be easier: to bug Walter to modify OPTLINK to > > > generate LX executables (DMC already supports creating DOS/16M > > executables, > > > why not also DOS/4G ones?), or convince him to tell us what are the DMC > > > requirements for generating a DOSX exe, so we can add support in another > > > extender? X32 seems to have a few problems, and doesn't seem to be maintained any more, so we need our own replacement for X32... <g> > > > > > > I can hardly wait for OpenWatcom to do a full release... ;) > > > > > > Laurentiu > > > > > > "Javier Gutiérrez" <nikkho@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:addjfo$s3r$1@digitaldaemon.com... > > > > It seems the Flashtek DOS Extender is a bit outdated. > > > > By the way, now Rationl Systems is Tenberry. > > > > If you are looking for a DOS4GW compatible DOS Extender, but > faster, > > > > smaller, and open source, take a look at http://dos32a.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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