On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:39:21 +1000 (08/17/03 09:39:21)
, Matthew Wilson <matthew@stlsoft.org> wrote:

>
[snip]
>
> (Maybe this is opening up a new hornet's nest, but I reckon you'd have to go
> a long way to find a society less violent or threatening and more friendly
> than the Australian. Perhaps by getting things off their chest each day,
> things don't build up to more apocalyptic proportions ...)

100% agree, you dickhead ;-)


-- 
Derek
(Melbourne, Australia)

Ilya Minkov wrote:

> PS. Let's vote whether i should be banned or not. :)

Nope.  However, anything akin to insulting one's intellegence on this group is bound to draw maximum flames.  Many of us are sensitive in this area...

Matthew Wilson wrote:
>>PS. It's just like us humans to love the complements but hate the
>>criticism.
> 
> Except when you're writing a book. I'm getting quite grumpy with some of my
> nicer reviewers being kind and all. I want it hard, vicious, and straight
> between the eyes!!
> 

... legs. :)

"Matthew Wilson" <matthew@stlsoft.org> ha scritto nel messaggio news:bhoukq$14fp$2@digitaldaemon.com...
> Of course. I'm sure that goes for us all.

Count me in.

BTW, I didn't read the message that started it all (the one where Frank was
defined as "very naive"), I'm sorry about that but after 15 days of vacation
I had a thousand new messages in this NG alone... I think, though, that
maybe Frank and Ilya have different ideas about the strength of the word
"naive" and even about it being an offense. This can happen, since there are
people here with very different cultural backgrounds: not all of us are
native English speakers, and even those who are come from different places,
where words may have slight differences in strength, if not in meaning. I
recall being told about an Italian word (which I will not mention here, but
the nearest English translation I can think of is "dummy") which is so
widely used in Milan it goes almost unnoticed, while in Turin (125km west!)
it's taken as a very rude offense.
Another difference comes from how one is used to form phrases is his/her own
language. We Italians tend to be so verbose, that when someone German or
Austrian only wants to be straightforward may sound rude to us. But it's
just his/her way to say things, and it looks like it may be the case for
Ilya too (Ilya, do you remember when you told me to get a good OOP book?
;-) )

So, well, a bit more of attention when we write, plus a little more tolerance about what we read, and it shouldn't be so difficult to live in peace... This is a technical NG after all, fancy if it was about politics... :-)

Ric

"Matthew Wilson" <matthew@stlsoft.org> ha scritto nel messaggio news:bhmf11$kvl$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I'm not saying my culture is any better than yours. How could I? Only an idiot (or an Italian president) will do that.
I'm sorry but I have to correct you on that: the idiot in question is Prime Minister, not President. :-)

That said... agreed 100%!

Ric