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[Issue 2538] New: Private inheritance doesn't work for interfaces
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[Issue 2538] Private inteface method implementation is not considered a valid
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[Issue 2538] Final method is not involved in inteface method resolution
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December 23, 2008
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2538

           Summary: Private inheritance doesn't work for interfaces
           Product: D
           Version: 2.022
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Windows
            Status: NEW
          Keywords: rejects-valid
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: DMD
        AssignedTo: bugzilla@digitalmars.com
        ReportedBy: 2korden@gmail.com


Whenever I inherit from interface privately, compiler rises an error that inherited abstract methods are not implemented:

module test;

interface NetworkListener
{
    void onConnect();
}

class SoundManager : private NetworkListener
{
    private final void onConnect()
    {
    }
}

test.d(8): class test.SoundManager interface function NetworkListener.onConnect
isn't implemented

I use private inheritance because I don't want my classes to be used as listeners by anyone but the class itself (or module it is declared in). Use case: it is an implementation detail that SoundManager is also a NetworkListener (because I allow tuning sounds from authoring tool via debug connection).

Both DMD1.x and DMD2.x are affected.


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December 23, 2008
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2korden@gmail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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            Summary|Private inheritance doesn't |Private inteface method
                   |work for interfaces         |implementation is not
                   |                            |considered a valid




------- Comment #1 from 2korden@gmail.com  2008-12-22 18:36 -------
I was a bit wrong. Marking a method final is a cause of a problem, not the private inheritance itself.


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December 26, 2008
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bugzilla@digitalmars.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |INVALID




------- Comment #2 from bugzilla@digitalmars.com  2008-12-25 21:14 -------
A "final private" method is not virtual, and hence won't work for an interface method. That's why the error message appears. You can make it an enhancement request if you like.


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December 26, 2008
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2korden@gmail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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           Severity|normal                      |enhancement
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
           Keywords|rejects-valid               |
         Resolution|INVALID                     |
            Summary|Private inteface method     |Final method is not involved
                   |implementation is not       |in inteface method
                   |considered a valid          |resolution




------- Comment #3 from 2korden@gmail.com  2008-12-26 01:27 -------
Yes, I would.


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January 20, 2009
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2korden@gmail.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |DUPLICATE




------- Comment #4 from 2korden@gmail.com  2009-01-20 02:59 -------


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 2524 ***


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January 20, 2009
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smjg@iname.com changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 CC|                            |smjg@iname.com




------- Comment #5 from smjg@iname.com  2009-01-20 12:42 -------
See issue 2524 comment 8.  However, this brings us back to the problem of inheritance protection, previously brought up in issue 177 and issue 2563.  We already have why it doesn't make sense for classes in D; it doesn't make sense for interfaces for a different reason.  The point of private inheritance is to implement an "implemented in terms of" relationship, but interfaces contain no implementation.  So the "implementing" class would gain nothing over not implementing the interface at all.  I think the same would apply to protected inheritance....


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------- Comment #6 from schveiguy@yahoo.com  2009-01-20 14:53 -------
(In reply to comment #5)
> See issue 2524 comment 8.  However, this brings us back to the problem of inheritance protection, previously brought up in issue 177 and issue 2563.  We already have why it doesn't make sense for classes in D; it doesn't make sense for interfaces for a different reason.  The point of private inheritance is to implement an "implemented in terms of" relationship, but interfaces contain no implementation.  So the "implementing" class would gain nothing over not implementing the interface at all.  I think the same would apply to protected inheritance....
> 

My interpretation of the spec is that private methods are never virtual and never go into a vtable.  As stated by the spec the exact set of functions that are virtual are: "All non-static non-private non-template member functions are virtual"

It is impossible for a static, template, or private function to be virtual, which means it cannot be in a vtable.  final methods can be virtual (meaning they are in a vtable), they just cannot be overridden.

I would propose that it should be an error to implement an interface with private protection.  It makes no sense, as an interface is used where you do not know the implementation, but a private symbol can only be used in the file it's declared in, so you *should* know the implementation by looking at the file.


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------- Comment #7 from 2korden@gmail.com  2009-01-20 16:57 -------
(In reply to comment #6)
> I would propose that it should be an error to implement an interface with private protection.  It makes no sense, as an interface is used where you do not know the implementation, but a private symbol can only be used in the file it's declared in, so you *should* know the implementation by looking at the file.
> 

Maybe it doesn't make sense to you, but it certainly does to me (see my examples). I believe I've brought enough examples where private and package methods are desired to have polymorphic behavior.


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------- Comment #8 from schveiguy@yahoo.com  2009-01-20 17:20 -------
Your examples can be implemented using other means.  See my responses in Bug 2524.  What you are asking for is runtime protection checking.


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January 22, 2009
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maxmo@pochta.ru changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
           Priority|P2                          |P5
         Resolution|DUPLICATE                   |




------- Comment #9 from maxmo@pochta.ru  2009-01-22 05:03 -------
I think, purpose of private interface implementation was well described. D is
just not aimed at fanatical incapsulation and everyone failing to
overincapsulate his code is advised to give it up and make everything public.
This won't wreak much havoc after all :)
Marking this as low-priority RFE.


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