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[Issue 2994] New: Incomplete "Predefined Versions" documentation
May 16, 2009
Nick Sabalausky
May 17, 2009
Anders F Bj
May 17, 2009
Stewart Gordon
May 18, 2009
Stewart Gordon
Jun 07, 2009
Brad Roberts
Jun 07, 2009
Stewart Gordon
Jun 08, 2009
Brad Roberts
Jun 10, 2009
Sobirari Muhomori
Nov 10, 2010
Walter Bright
May 16, 2009
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2994

           Summary: Incomplete "Predefined Versions" documentation
           Product: D
           Version: 1.043
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: www.digitalmars.com
        AssignedTo: bugzilla@digitalmars.com
        ReportedBy: cbkbbejeap@mailinator.com


The D1 and D2 documentation for "Predefined Versions" does not include macintosh/osx, does not mention how FreeBSD is handled, and does not point out any distinction between "linux" and "Posix".

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--- Comment #1 from Nick Sabalausky <cbkbbejeap@mailinator.com>  2009-05-16 14:28:25 PDT ---
It also doesn't mention how Solaris is handled.

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Anders F Bj <afb@algonet.se> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Anders F Bj <afb@algonet.se>  2009-05-17 02:51:11 PDT ---
DMD doesn't handle Solaris yet afaik, GDC calls it "solaris": http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DocComments/Version

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--- Comment #3 from Tomas Lindquist Olsen <tomas@famolsen.dk>  2009-05-17 04:42:38 PDT ---
"Solaris" is a predefined version identifier in DMD 1.045

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--- Comment #4 from Stewart Gordon <smjg@iname.com>  2009-05-17 14:37:40 PDT ---
How is the distinction between GUI and console apps on Mac OS X handled, given such incompatibilities between them as the line break style?

And what about whatever other 32+-bit platforms exist?  (Game consoles? iPhone?  ....)

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--- Comment #5 from Stewart Gordon <smjg@iname.com>  2009-05-18 13:57:17 PDT ---
I'm thinking now that the best solution may be to have an official list of version identifiers for OSs maintained separately from the D1 and D2 specs, and have those specs link to this list.  That way, once the D1 spec is finished, this list can still be kept up to date with new OSs that may emerge, ready for anyone wanting to write a D compiler therefor.

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--- Comment #6 from Brad Roberts <braddr@puremagic.com>  2009-06-07 16:04:36 PDT ---
I'd rather see the spec fully contained within the spec, not having references to external sites.  As further justification to my view, in addition to version identifiers, the ABI part of the spec likely needs updates for new platforms too.  Just because they're not implemented by DMD doesn't mean the spec shouldn't contain those platforms.

So, for those that maintain compilers that support other platforms, can you attach a diff for at least the version identifiers and file another bug report to update the abi portion of the spec as well? :)

Thanks,
Brad

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--- Comment #7 from Stewart Gordon <smjg@iname.com>  2009-06-07 16:40:30 PDT ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> I'd rather see the spec fully contained within the spec, not having references to external sites.

Well, obviously it wouldn't be an external site.  It would be a list somewhere on the D website but separate from the core language spec.  Or maybe a page that is in the spec but with an exemption made from freezing to allow for additions of new platforms.

> As further justification to my view, in addition to version
> identifiers, the ABI part of the spec likely needs updates for new platforms
> too.  Just because they're not implemented by DMD doesn't mean the spec
> shouldn't contain those platforms.

Yes, that's exactly why I proposed this.  The ABI page should be dealt with in the same way as the predefined version page.

I suppose it's a matter of creating a "Platform specifics" section of the specs.  This would cover not only the predefined versions and ABI, but also such things as the inline assembler and possibly the current pages on Win32 specifics.

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--- Comment #8 from Brad Roberts <braddr@puremagic.com>  2009-06-07 18:03:52 PDT ---
> (In reply to comment #6)
> Or maybe a page that is in the spec but with an exemption made from freezing
> to allow for additions of new platforms.

Ah, well, the freeze of the D1 spec has been pragmatic enough to support updates like this anyway, so no need to worry terribly much about that.

I'll reach out on the digitalmars.D newsgroup to attempt to gather up the current list to fold in so this bug can be closed out.

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--- Comment #9 from Sobirari Muhomori <maxmo@pochta.ru>  2009-06-10 03:14:28 PDT ---
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> does not mention how FreeBSD is handled, and does not point out any distinction between "linux" and "Posix".

Platform identifiers are provided for user code so that it can work platform-dependent and it's up to user code to handle it in any way needed. For example it's used in core.stdc.stdio to version out various declaration.

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