Hi, I was wondering which architectures and/or operating systems are (fully or partially) supported by gdc? I find D an interesting language, but I like to keep my code portable.

I am particularly interested int ARM, PowerPC and SH3 architectures.

Kind regards,

Wim

Wim Vander Schelden wrote:
> Hi, I was wondering which architectures and/or operating systems are (fully or partially) supported by gdc? I find D an interesting language, but I like to keep my code portable.
> 
> I am particularly interested int ARM, PowerPC and SH3 architectures.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Wim

I am currently working on the ARM/pocketPC platform.  I've released the compiler already, though it suffers from some big problems like the garbage collector crashing during collection.  For more info and the download, read the thread called "GDC D compiler for PocketPCs is here!".  Debugging in progress...

I don't plan on doing an SH3 port myself since all of the new PDAs seem to be using ARM processors of various types.

I do hope to have a ARM-PalmOS port some day, but some day could be very far into the future.

For everything else, check "Supported Targets" on this page: http://dgcc.sourceforge.net/

I don't have a PocketPC any more, I now own a Tungsten|C, on which I intend to run Linux by the end of the summer. I'd like to help you with porting the compiler over to ARM/Linux once it does, if you're interested in such a port.

Wim

Chad J schreef:
> Wim Vander Schelden wrote:
>> Hi, I was wondering which architectures and/or operating systems are (fully or partially) supported by gdc? I find D an interesting language, but I like to keep my code portable.
>>
>> I am particularly interested int ARM, PowerPC and SH3 architectures.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Wim
> 
> I am currently working on the ARM/pocketPC platform.  I've released the compiler already, though it suffers from some big problems like the garbage collector crashing during collection.  For more info and the download, read the thread called "GDC D compiler for PocketPCs is here!".  Debugging in progress...
> 
> I don't plan on doing an SH3 port myself since all of the new PDAs seem to be using ARM processors of various types.
> 
> I do hope to have a ARM-PalmOS port some day, but some day could be very far into the future.
> 
> For everything else, check "Supported Targets" on this page: http://dgcc.sourceforge.net/

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:42:26 -0700, Wim Vander Schelden <wim.vanderschelden@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't have a PocketPC any more, I now own a Tungsten|C, on which I intend to run Linux by the end of the summer. I'd like to help you with porting the compiler over to ARM/Linux once it does, if you're interested in such a port.
>
> Wim

I used to own a Tungsten|C and loved the sturdy PDA (great battery life!).  But, unfortunately, it took just one little mishap and the screen cracked.  It really annoyed me to find out that many other Tungsten|C users had the same problem.  Palm manufactured horrible screens, and didn't provide any default way to effectively replace it or to protect it effectively.  I would probably still use that excellent PDA if it weren't for that.

Now all the parts sit uselessly in my closet, and I'm stuck using a Windows Mobile 5.0 device Dell X50v which I really don't like very much because of all the WM5 software and OS bloat and horrible UI.  All that supposed "power" sucks the battery dry and wm5 still is a ugly, slow clunker (you have to slow the CPU down to make the battery last and that makes the already cluttered OS run slow).  Sad to say, I've dropped my Dell many times and it still won't die -- it just keeps running like a clunker :P. That says it's a well-made machine with a very poorly designed OS.  Gone are the days of the "best of both worlds."

I loved the fast responsiveness of the old palm days. *sigh*

/end of sad PDA story

-JJR

Wim Vander Schelden wrote:
> I don't have a PocketPC any more, I now own a Tungsten|C, on which I intend to run Linux by the end of the summer. I'd like to help you with porting the compiler over to ARM/Linux once it does, if you're interested in such a port.
> 
> Wim

An ARM-Linux port would be great.  I probably won't be willing to spend any months on it like WinCE, at least not so soon, but I am willing to give it a shot :)

If we take on ARM-Linux then you will have to do the runtime debugging since I don't have a Linux PDA.

Be sure and post or email me when you want to do this.  At this point earlier is better - I have college coming mid-september, with 3 physics classes and a vector analysis math class, so I won't be able to help as much then.  If you have time, I suggest possibly just getting the compiler to compile, even if you don't have a PDA to test on yet.  Just getting an executable to test on my PDA took me a loooong time.

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:47:36 -0700, Chad J <gamerChad@_spamIsBad_gmail.com> wrote:

> Wim Vander Schelden wrote:
>> I don't have a PocketPC any more, I now own a Tungsten|C, on which I intend to run Linux by the end of the summer. I'd like to help you with porting the compiler over to ARM/Linux once it does, if you're interested in such a port.
>>  Wim
>
> An ARM-Linux port would be great.  I probably won't be willing to spend any months on it like WinCE, at least not so soon, but I am willing to give it a shot :)
>
> If we take on ARM-Linux then you will have to do the runtime debugging since I don't have a Linux PDA.
>
> Be sure and post or email me when you want to do this.  At this point earlier is better - I have college coming mid-september, with 3 physics classes and a vector analysis math class, so I won't be able to help as much then.  If you have time, I suggest possibly just getting the compiler to compile, even if you don't have a PDA to test on yet.  Just getting an executable to test on my PDA took me a loooong time.


I have a linux arm-based PDA.  I haven't tried doing any work with gdc on it yet.  It's a wonderful Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200 (I also have the SL-C700) and it runs OpenZaurus.  An excellent machine for this sort of thing.  I'd love to test this out.

I'm surprised that there is a Linux available for the Tungsten|C.  That would make a great little machine.  Which linux is that? Links? Maybe I can somehow find a way to get poor broken Tungsten back into working shape after 2 years in the closet.

-JJR

I have noticed strange thing just below the surface of my screen as well, they look like bubbles, and I have noticed the screens surface is very easily damaged (scratches etc) so lets just hope it doesn't break just yet. As for the responsiveness of palm os, sure, if you use it for its calendar and things like that it may be responsive, but once you use its wifi things go wrong :) I never used WM5, but WM2k3 worked nicely for me, albeit it often crashed. A friend of mine owned a Dell x50v, and it was bulky, power hungry and the UI was dog ugly, way worse than the simple WM2k3. Why didn't they just stick their Windows XP teletubbie skin (green-blue and a wallpaper of a hill that looks like its a screenshot from teletubbieland) on it to make the torment complete?
That said, he API for software development is awful on a palm, its something that should have been flagged "deprecated" a few decades ago. Thank god their switching to linux :)

/End of off-topic slandering of all PDA OS'es

- Wim

John Reimer schreef:
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:42:26 -0700, Wim Vander Schelden <wim.vanderschelden@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I don't have a PocketPC any more, I now own a Tungsten|C, on which I intend to run Linux by the end of the summer. I'd like to help you with porting the compiler over to ARM/Linux once it does, if you're interested in such a port.
>>
>> Wim
> 
> I used to own a Tungsten|C and loved the sturdy PDA (great battery life!).  But, unfortunately, it took just one little mishap and the screen cracked.  It really annoyed me to find out that many other Tungsten|C users had the same problem.  Palm manufactured horrible screens, and didn't provide any default way to effectively replace it or to protect it effectively.  I would probably still use that excellent PDA if it weren't for that.
> 
> Now all the parts sit uselessly in my closet, and I'm stuck using a Windows Mobile 5.0 device Dell X50v which I really don't like very much because of all the WM5 software and OS bloat and horrible UI.  All that supposed "power" sucks the battery dry and wm5 still is a ugly, slow clunker (you have to slow the CPU down to make the battery last and that makes the already cluttered OS run slow).  Sad to say, I've dropped my Dell many times and it still won't die -- it just keeps running like a clunker :P. That says it's a well-made machine with a very poorly designed OS.  Gone are the days of the "best of both worlds."
> 
> I loved the fast responsiveness of the old palm days. *sigh*
> 
> /end of sad PDA story
> 
> -JJR

I'm currently studying for an exam, so I don't have much time unfortunately. My first priority is to get Linux running however, as we've been working on that for months and I want some working version before we start thinking about the things to do with such a device.

I'm free from Tuesday next week till mid-September, so I should have some time to get things done then. My email is the one I use to post here (I'm that crazy to use a real email ;) )

- Wim

Chad J schreef:
> Wim Vander Schelden wrote:
>> I don't have a PocketPC any more, I now own a Tungsten|C, on which I intend to run Linux by the end of the summer. I'd like to help you with porting the compiler over to ARM/Linux once it does, if you're interested in such a port.
>>
>> Wim
> 
> An ARM-Linux port would be great.  I probably won't be willing to spend any months on it like WinCE, at least not so soon, but I am willing to give it a shot :)
> 
> If we take on ARM-Linux then you will have to do the runtime debugging since I don't have a Linux PDA.
> 
> Be sure and post or email me when you want to do this.  At this point earlier is better - I have college coming mid-september, with 3 physics classes and a vector analysis math class, so I won't be able to help as much then.  If you have time, I suggest possibly just getting the compiler to compile, even if you don't have a PDA to test on yet.  Just getting an executable to test on my PDA took me a loooong time.

We're developing our own port at the moment, and then join Hack'n'Dev and Familiar for packages. Currently Linux boots, but the touch screen and the keyboard don't work yet. We will get GPE running in all its glory by the next school year though.

About the Zaurus: You have _TWO_? I think I speak for several Linux guru-wannabes here when I say I spend months looking for one, but never got a decent deal on it, and still regret the day I didn't buy one.

- Wim

John Reimer schreef:
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:47:36 -0700, Chad J <gamerChad@_spamIsBad_gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Wim Vander Schelden wrote:
>>> I don't have a PocketPC any more, I now own a Tungsten|C, on which I intend to run Linux by the end of the summer. I'd like to help you with porting the compiler over to ARM/Linux once it does, if you're interested in such a port.
>>>  Wim
>>
>> An ARM-Linux port would be great.  I probably won't be willing to spend any months on it like WinCE, at least not so soon, but I am willing to give it a shot :)
>>
>> If we take on ARM-Linux then you will have to do the runtime debugging since I don't have a Linux PDA.
>>
>> Be sure and post or email me when you want to do this.  At this point earlier is better - I have college coming mid-september, with 3 physics classes and a vector analysis math class, so I won't be able to help as much then.  If you have time, I suggest possibly just getting the compiler to compile, even if you don't have a PDA to test on yet.  Just getting an executable to test on my PDA took me a loooong time.
> 
> 
> I have a linux arm-based PDA.  I haven't tried doing any work with gdc on it yet.  It's a wonderful Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200 (I also have the SL-C700) and it runs OpenZaurus.  An excellent machine for this sort of thing.  I'd love to test this out.
> 
> I'm surprised that there is a Linux available for the Tungsten|C.  That would make a great little machine.  Which linux is that? Links? Maybe I can somehow find a way to get poor broken Tungsten back into working shape after 2 years in the closet.
> 
> -JJR

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:06:17 -0700, Wim Vander Schelden <wim.vanderschelden@gmail.com> wrote:

> We're developing our own port at the moment, and then join Hack'n'Dev and Familiar for packages. Currently Linux boots, but the touch screen and the keyboard don't work yet. We will get GPE running in all its glory by the next school year though.


Ahh, I was wondering because I'd never heard of a linux port for the Tungsten|C before.


>
> About the Zaurus: You have _TWO_? I think I speak for several Linux guru-wannabes here when I say I spend months looking for one, but never got a decent deal on it, and still regret the day I didn't buy one.
>


Yes, two :).  One from an easy ebay deal (the C700) and the other from overseas (C3200).  No decent deal was available on the C3200, of course.  I just grit my teeth and shelled out the money.  I just wanted one that bad :P.

The C700 series wasn't that hard to find on ebay for a good deal, though.  It's battery life is the most dismal of the 7** and 8** clamshell series, but it's certainly an excellent and inexpensive unit for experimenting on before I touch the likes of the shiny C3200. And I love having a rotatable 640x480 screen. :)

Another unit that greatly interests me is the GP2X.  That linux-based unit, although it's more media and game console oriented, looks fascinating.  And it's not all that expensive either.

-JJR